election, before trump took office. anyway, according to nbc s reporting, rick gerson has been friends with kushner for more than a decade. however, gerson first met george nader just weeks before his trip to the seychelles in another secret meeting at the four seasons hotel in new york in mid-december, right after the election. the participants of that meeting included gerson, jared kushner, george nader, and the crown prince of the uae along with trump s national security adviser michael flynn and trump s political adviser steve bannon. so what everybody is watching and nobody is like you, ken. let me just ask you as we move towards a declaration of guilt perhaps i expect to have one from robert mueller. we know it s going to deal with obstruction in the first instance. is he still building a heavy body of evidence regarding collusion with the russians? it sure looks that way, chris, because subpoenas are going out. you know, even as a few weeks ago on the roger stone aspect
the roger stone aspect of potential collusion. he s looking at this now. what we don t know what evidence he s already gathered particularly what donald trump the candidate knew about that trump tower meeting that his son set up. is he still investigating that. the question is, what does he have. i m calling the iceberg. since we were kids, we know the iceberg including the one that sunk the titanic, you only see about 10%. that s why i look at bob mueller s operation. you don t see 90%. less about it as time goes on. just the idea that kushner got a security clearance. some people believe that means he s in the clear. other people say that s absolutely not true. there s never been any person who looks more like not even god can sink me than donald trump. president trump is brandishing his pardon power and offering the signal to all those ensnared in the mueller probe. is trump looking to pardon his way out of russian probe sflb look at him smiling. of course, he is. this is har