constant talk about a new democratic name to take on hillary clinton returns the focus to her perceived enthusiasm gap. for instance, jeb bush saying this. as republicans and democrats descend on the hawk eye state for the state fair. when you have the presumptive front runner dominating and then losing to bernie sanders in new hampshire and the race tightening in other places, i m sure people like joe biden and al gore are seriously considering it. joining me at the top of the hour kelly o donnell, from washington, christine welker. and perry bacon. and senior political correspondent perry bacon and roger steiner. we got the talk. how much substance is there to back it up? i think the buzz about al gore considering a presidential run is just that. buzz. i spoke with a fairly plugged in
kasie hunt at the iowa state fair. kasie, want to get to bush s performance here. you had a chance to talk to him where you specifically asked him about being an outsider. that s right, francis. i had a chance to talk to governor bush about whether or not he was the kind of outsider candidate that are leading the polls right now. donald trump, ben carson, both people never been in washington before. bush has spent the past couple of hours at the pair. we just saw him walk by us on his way out of here. he s been very accessible to voters and reporters. i also got a chance to ask him how the lessons of his father s campaign here in iowa apply to him. he had a great organization. caucus state, so it requires slow, steady build-up of people that want to not just vote for you but commit to you, to recruit people to come spend two hours on a monday evening on february 1st in iowa. so he was talking about this. remember, he s pretty far back in the polls. there are a lot of qu