Although lincoln is hard to read emotionally, what was so fascinating was that they spoke about loving lincoln. Over and over again people right we loved him. They loved him as a father. People most often spoke of him as a brother and son. That speaks to his emotional distance. I have some questions on psychohistory. I am a licensed psychiatrist. I am bound not to speculate. You can look at what information is available and put into some context. I caution against trying to utilize information on someone who has been dead since 1865, trying to put that into a category that is 150 years later in terms of that. I think at times with a figure as large as Abraham Lincoln, what would have not have been as large is made larger in that extent. I do have some concern about that. Having said that, it was not clinical depression. It would be classified as this fine mia dysfimia. One of the most astute psychological assessments of lincoln, it depends on what you are trying to find. I would make a
Left the position to become chief domestic advisor. Coming up next, part two of a twopart interview with mr. Dean. He talks about the fallout from the breakin and how it became in his words a cancer on the presidency. He discusses why he began to cooperate with federal investigators, and his sentencing after pleading guilty to a charge of conspiracy to obstruct justice. The Richard Nixon president ial library conducted this interview as part of a project to document the 37th president s administration. This is 90 minutes. Moderator tell us your reaction when you hear about the breakin. John i had been in manila giving a speech for the bureau of narcotics. The Drug Enforcement agency becomes later. It was a graduation speech for a bunch of agents who had been trained by dea. I was crossing the dateline. I was lying back and i arrived in San Francisco feeling jetlagged badly. I call my deputy and said im going to stay in San Francisco just rest today and come back tomorrow. He said i thi
Guys would have loved to be drugged and taken below the border. That was the ilk of this plan he envisioned that included everything from using prostitutes to gather information to wiretapping. It was a whole illegal plan. I did not think mitchell would give it a second look. Liddy did revise it down to, i think, a quarter of a million dollars. It was a half a million the next time. I went back and i was not planning to attend any more meetings. I have now realized that i went to haldeman. I was able to document from haldemans calendar years after the fact and long after this was available i went to haldeman twice on this, once after the first meeting and said it was absurd and went to him the second meeting and said this thing has to be cut off. I only testified to going to him the second time because that was the only one clear in my mind. Haldeman knew i had been in there twice to talk about this plan. I was invited back by mcgruder the second time, went up the elevator. Have been b
Justice department they called my office and said cant you do something about this guy up here . And, yes, i was able to call in the attorney general and deal with him that sort of thing. But were not were just aware because for time reasons, i often had to follow Major Supreme Court decisions to see and i knew when they were going to come down and get the slip opinion because nixon would need particularly as a lawyer, would want to be able to respond even before the department of justice could crank the papers around and get a summary of it out. We would have to have it, boom, get an opinion from the court and have somebody to Say Something about the opinion so we followed cases before the court. But as far as getting into the areas like the plumbers, we were excluded totally from that operation. And for good reason. And ill explain that. After the pentagon papers leaked, as you know from the record there was a major thrust by nixon to deal with ellsberg and make a political as well a
Administration. As for him is about 90 minutes. Moderator tell us your reaction when you hear about the breakin. John i had been in manila giving a speech for the bureau of narcotics. The Drug Enforcement agency becomes later. It was a graduation speech for a bunch of agents who had been trained by dea. And i got back, crossing the date line was always a body twister. I was lying back and i arrived in San Francisco feeling jetlagged badly. I call my deputy and said im going to stay in San Francisco and just rest today and come back tomorrow. This on a sunday night. He said i think you better come back. There has been some activities here that you should know about. Fred wouldnt say that if it wasnt serious. I met with fred, who lived down the street from me in old town. He tells me about this arrest at the dnc. My reaction is colson. I am thinking back to brookings, all that. This sounds like colson has gone crazy again. The next morning it doesnt take me very long when jed mcgruder ca