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there was a big idealogical grand canyon between where the president is and republicans are. bill: two back to your first answer because we have few details about this at the moment. what is your expectation what you re hearing? i guess you could label it small ball the describe it. that is go way to put it. small ball. only in washington is $250 billion considered small ball. more infrastructure spending, more shovel-ready projects. that was in the original stimulus. a big unemployment insurance program and probably extension of the tax credit on social security that started in january, the president wants another year extension of that. the problem republicans will say very predictably about this? what is new about this? this is the change. this is what we ve been doing last two or three years. it hasn t created jobs we need. bill: is small ball what we need? if we stop the spending, stop the debt, we, just had a downgrade on our debt. that s a signal maybe all this debt isn t he

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