came in as a rock conservative and gave away the store on spending. then you had two losses with mccain and romney, both of whom the base ultimately said okay, we ll embrace him, give you guys your way. i think this time the base of the party is through with the establishment, and christie being the favorite of, let s just face it, our business, of the northeastern media elite, hurts him. the national organization for marriage came out and slammed him as having no courage, no convictions. that part of the party is ascendant right now. the rock rib base wants somebody like him, and there s going to be other governors, there will be perry out there, scott walker out there, people more conservative than christie. he s going to have a tough time getting the nomination. the one thing going for him, steve, and i don t know what s going to happen in three years, but one thing going for him, there s only one of him. joy just went through the list. i remember jimmy carter won because he was t
debate between chris christie who i like in many ways, because he reminds me of the guys i grew up with big city, ethnic kind of guy, i went to school with, catholic guy. i get him. i get this guy. and none of your business sounds like one of those guys, none of your business. him seda debating ted cruz woul heaven for me. i d watch a three-hour debate between them. i m not sure who would win the nomination fight if they could tag him with, you re a cultural liberal, you think like modern people. we don t think like you. no, chris, i totally agree with you, i think, more than steve on this. because i think had there not been a john mccain, not been a mitt romney and not been a george w. bush, because remember, what bush s genius was, if you want to use genius and george bush in the same sentence, but the genius of george w. bush was he was able to have enough credibility with the rock ridge conservative base to be able to move and be sort of palatable to the business conservative.
three months ago the entire campaign plan was to moderate cuccinelli, cuccinelli was going say i ll be like mcdonnell. i ll govern like him. i ll govern center right. now he has to run away from him. that s a double whammy on conduct cornerback. not just that mcdonnell is a distraction is that he loses the opportunity to have a verifier from somebody who was up until basically the last six weeks as this scandal has percolated. somebody who was fairly trusted with the middle of the electorate in virginia with, you know, centrist democrats, independents and senate republicans. boy, mark mckenna this for me at least a big loss for conservatives at least in the short term. we don t know how things are going to play out. but, what was so great about bob mcdonnell and he was rock conservative, i m talking about