Hay market books has more, wednesday discussion of remaking schools in the time of coronavirus and on thursday a week from today roy and conversation with the if your streaming gets choppy at any point you might want to reduce the quality. We are observing time for q a and please post questions on life video feed wherever youre watching it. Now lets go. Im mattie roy, the pandemic is some responses for covid19, policing of national and sub National Borders and more surveillance now sold to us with the message that total surveillance is good medicine, but as we try to imagine a different world and fight for abolition future theres no one i would rather hear from than ruth gilmore, the Central California Environmental Justice network. Shes professor of earth and Environmental Sciences at kennedy graduate. Author of prison, surplus, crisis and opposition and globalize in california. Brilliant study that locates prisons as the foundation of a new kind of state, the antistate state and dism