i think it s very personal to the former vice president. president trump incited people to go down to the capitol. they chanted hang mike pence. what kind of robot wouldn t be sensitive to that? i mean, he was in the capitol. the president didn t come bail him out. obviously, there s a personal element to this, but you know, mike pence has been a politician for a long time and he sees opportunity and he s ambitious, and this is the, you know, this is the lane he s going to try to run in. whether that is successful or not remains to be seen. yeah. i m sorry, though. i just don t seem to be able to applaud it because it s about darn time, right? and why didn t it happen any sooner? i think it s probably safe to assume now at this point that the former vice president will not be on the same ticket as the former president if, in fact, he decides to run again. that s a safe assumption. at this point. jonathan allen, thank you as always. great to see you, my friend. coming up at