of course, there s concern in the white house about cohen because of his penchant for audio recordings, for having meetings he doesn t always disclose with people beyond president trump. and so they say with michael cohen, he s not just a risk, he s a question mark. they don t know what they don t know inside of the west wing. it was a taping system that will brought down nixon. here we have a lawyer with a taping system. anyway, it s a frankenstein s monster. robert costa, robert jolly, jill, thanks for coming back. pompeo made a secret to meet with kim jong-un. what will the north koreans demand? what s the ask? for us to get off the 38th parallel? what is it? we ll talk about that. this is hardball where the action is.
successful we would have never indicted it. we would have never proceeded with it. circumstantial cases allow you to be creative. you can take a set of facts and weave a story together for your theory of prosecution. shawn smoot insisted he was innocent. he cycled through five different defense attorneys and the trial was delayed again and again. it was surreal, really, you know, because it had been reset 22 times. 22 times. that s torture. it is. it is torture. the trial finally started in july 2016, nearly five years after brooke died. robert jolly,smoot s fifth attorney, believed the state case was weak for one simple reason. i don t think that they did very thorough investigations of anyone other than mr. smoot and even his investigation wasn t very thorough.
firearm makes unique marks. as for the volatile relationship described in the order of protection, the defense pointed out that smoot never admitted to any of the allegations, and he was never charged, much less convicted of in i assault on brooke. the order doesn t mea that mr. smoot ever did anything, it doesn t mean that mr. smoot admitted that he did anything. and the order of protection didn t prevent them from seeing each other, which they clearly did. miss morris told the judge that she wanted to have social contact with mr. smoot. jolly argued if brooke was so afraid of smoot, why would she want to keep seeing him? after all, phone records showed she was the one who called him that day. she continued to treat shawn as a friend, as someone that she would do activities with. did you worry that that could be confusing to the jury? absolutely. and i think that s the underlying question anytime that we re talking about domestic
jolly told the jury just how little that investigation had uncovered. there are no fingerprints. there is no gunshot residue test, there is no dna test, there is absolutely no evidence that links mr. smoot to the county on that evening. the defense sought to prove that the evidence the state did have wasn t actually incriminating. like the missing gun that shawn owned, yes, it was the same caliber as the murder weapon, but there are however many million of people in this country who own guns and this was a very common weapon. the defense also argued that the ballistics report linking shell casings from the crime scene to a bullet at smoot s home had no actual science behind it. there is no scientific evidence of that or any standards that show that, is there? there is not currently a standard that shows that every
proceeded. circumstantial cases allow you to be creative. you can take a set of facts and weave a story together for the thi theory of prosecution. shawn smoot insisted he was innocent, cycled through five different defense attorneys and the trial was delayed again and again. it was surreal. really, you know, it had been reset 22 times. 22 times. that s torture. it is. it is torture. the trial finally started in july, 2016, nearly five years after brooke died. robert jolly, smoot s fifth attorney, believed the state s case was weak for one simple reason. i don t think that they did a very thorough investigation of anyone other than mr. smoot, even his investigation wasn t thorough. jolly told the jury how