To. Cross knocking statues side im joined by my guest cleo voluntary in new york she is founder of the company there have been tammany which teaches social Emotional Learning in schools as well as diversity and inclusion in companies and Government Agencies and yet in las vegas we cross out of our it he is an assistant professor of African American and African Diaspora studies at the university of nevada las vegas all right crosswalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want rouse appreciate greatly let me go to you in new york how does taking down statues and we can talk about which ones changed the condition of people of color in the United States and theres that something is that just a political statement because were in a Great Recession were in a pandemic and working people or people being horrendously hit by this and i just have to ponder is statues the 1st thing we should be banking about go ahead. Well sure i mean i think i would defer to the former mayor of