they re overtly insidious. they re not effective unless you feel them. the russians had an act it program for some time to infiltrate and embed themselves in various aspects of our infrastructure. and to reens enforce an earlier point about the turnover with tom bossert and rob joigs, who was a cyber coordinator, who is really a competent professionals, both of them are having departed. well, once again, we re in a bad space i think to how we react to these russians he wasn t until a few days ago a homeland security adviser at the white house. let me get your reaction to the james comey book and the interviews she giving. a few days before donald trump inauguration, you were in the to youer with comey and others to brief the president-elect on russian interference.