electors. make no mistake that the vice president s life was in danger. the committee is going to reveal the details of the pressure campaign. i am telling you, if it is coming we are going to drag him through the streets. [inaudible] remember the word wimp. he said that you are a win. when is the word i remember. it is a different tone tone that i heard him take with the vice president before. do you remember what s she said, if i recall. that the key word. good morning. it is saturday, a june 18th. i am michael steele sitting in for velshi. we begin this morning with a special hour on another stunning week of revelations from historic public hearings of the january 6th select committee. we have the clearest picture yet of a president donald trump s farfetched plot to overturn the 2020 election loss in a run up to the attack on the capitol and his role to induce violence. they presented evidence that trump was told numerous times that he had lost the el
front of them, he takes the fifth amendment 100 times. this means that he thought that the answers to 100 questions, if you answer truthfully, each of those answers would intend to incriminate him. the committee does that to give us a little bit of context for everything that we hear. michael, this is not tough. if we back out of the weeds a little bit and think about what the scheme was, it is clear that it was not a legal political maneuver. the scheme was this, how have the vice president of throw the election. have mike pence say that he has not like the count and say that there was something improper in the count. he s breaking the system. he will not certify the count. the thing that we know about this that is illegal is that john eastman acknowledged it. when he was asked, when he was point blank about the part of that gore could ve done this in 2000, when he lost, he could have used this in this contested election to claim victory. eastman says, it would have
illegal. they still proceeded to put the squeeze on pence. numerous testimonies from advisers and even from trump s daughter, ivanka, recounted how they riled in the morning of january 6th in an attempt to get him to comply with a scheme. the committee argues that because pence refused to bend knee that day, trump turned a crowd of supporters against his own vice president and sent the violent mob to the capitol to find him. they dispelled any doubts about whether the chance of, quote, hang mike pence, were genuine. approximately 40 feet, that is all there was. there was a 40 feet between vice president and the mob. make no mistake that the vice president s life was in danger. a recent court filing by the department of justice explains that a confidential informant from the proud boys told the fbi that the proud boys would have killed mike pence if given the chance.
biden s win. he proceeded to pressure pence anyway. even though eastman is not testifying for the committee, can his seeking of that pardon, it does not do? is that an admission of guilt? how does that change the narrative that both trump and eastman are putting out there that this is all good? the committee does not operate under the rules that i would have to operate under as a prosecutor. there is no limitation on these sorts of evidence that they can introduce. they have used this particular piece skillfully. as a lawyer, as a very good lawyer, john eastman clerked on the supreme court. when he seeks a pardon, he obviously understands what he is doing, the implication is that he believes that he is in serious trouble and has committed crimes. the committee then explains, when they come in to testify in
also if they went to the supreme court to try to get the electoral count act overruled, they would lose nine to nothing. that concession was really important. it just shows the extreme lengths to which president trump and the chosen legal advisers were willing to go to try to overcome the probe. trump was surrounded by lawyers telling him that he lost and telling him that the steps you want to take were not okay. he basically lawyer shopped until he found the one person who was willing to say, actually, you won. we can push the vice president to make this happen. that is the rich, new picture that we got over the last hearing. that is the interesting a quirky part, joy s. one of the key things that the committee has highlighted is that john eastman was aware of the illegality, the total illegality of the plan. to have a pence overturn