ed, i ve been to norman a bunch of times. i know this is the worst thing to wake up to. it s the toughest to be able to make sure you re in a safe place? well, i ve always said, there s nothing worse than the overnight tornadoes in the dark. you have no idea, really, where it s coming from. and this is what the neighbors the residents in this neighborhood are dealing with. trees, about a foot in diameter, snapped in half. take a look way up there in the tree, about 30 feet high, a giant piece of plywood stuck in the branches there. that is rooftop that has been shredded off people s home. you can see, it gives you a sense of all of the debris that was flying around here, so wickedly. and here in this backyard, really gives you a sense, you can get in here because the fence has been completely blown out, but in particular home, fortunately, the owner of this home was in tulsa at the home, but this was you can also get a sense here of when you re inside your home and the
tough thing for some of these candidates, were going to have to decide, from their perspective, if they are going to put country first or party first. and that is kind of the calculus that is going on. not among all of the republican candidates who are not donald trump, but among some of them. never mind the question that i put in the clip that you played about trump himself. whether he will actually stick to any kind of pledge. they signed pledges in 2016. it s not really clear that they actually lived up to it. john kasich signed that pledge to get on the debate stage and he never supported donald trump. just one example. it s a great point that it s not just about trump and what he does, it s also what asa hutchinson and others. one fascinating part of this interview is when she brought up the fact that she s mitt romney s niece. something that we saw her downplay at times. she said, i m mitt romney s niece, she was appointed to the rnc by trump. i don t know if they would support
that they would support who the nominee is. i really thought that was interesting, as well, because she was trying to make the point, that she is, a unifier, and she is somebody who can kind of see broadly on the entire republican spectrum. but look, again, it is damaging, because we re talking about the influence of one man. that is donald trump. if donald trump were not part of this equation and you re talking about ron desantis, asa hutchinson, chris sununu, name your candidate, they would all be fine with signing a loyalty pledge. this is about donald trump and about the events of january 6th, full stop. yeah. and the trump campaign said, they don t have to worry about this, because he will be the nominee. of course. dana bash, fascinating interviews, as always. love the sweater, dana. looks great. she always does. did you see her glowing in white
which your piece that was so good a few weeks ago in the new york times points out, i think it s important for us also in fairness to note that during the trump administration, you had a number of liberal attorneys filing cases for nationwide injunctions against trump rulings to the ninth circuit court of appeals. because they thought, rightly so, that the ninth circuit would be favorable to them. so liberals are doing it, too. i have to say two things. one, i think that s true, to a degree. the big difference is what was happening during the trump administration was not this kind of hand-picking of individual judges. so when california, for example, would challenge a trump immigration policy, it would usually file in a courthouse in which it was subject to the random draw of 11 different judges. poppy, those judges might have been generally more sympathetic to california than to president trump, but again, i think that s the difference between forum shopping and judge shopping. bu