and i don t defend fgm. i don t defend mutilation. i would never defend the mutilation of anyone. i don tt identify with the term fgm, with the term mutilation. i don t know anyone in my family who does or my community. and from over 25 years of research i have done on the field, i say the great majority of women who are affected by what i call female circumcision practices do not see themselves as mutilated, so i think we need to interrogating how we use that terminology. tucker: i almost don t want to specify what it refers to becausemi it is upsetting. i think we should. tucker: it is the removal of a key sex female organ. this is done to girls who can t give consent. it affects them for life. tucker, this is why we need to have a discussion on what it is. when we use the term female genital mutilation,
worst thing you can do to a child. okay, so, back to the case of the doctor who is now in prison awaiting trial. she is accused, she is charged of fgm, mutilating a 7-year-old girl. she performed nicks, type ia to the clitoral foreskin. tucker: i don t know that it is true. it is true. the activists that actually made that term female genital mutilation, they have conflated it with these different tucker: some of those activists are victims of the practice themselves. they say this has affected their life and their happiness and their ability to experience happiness in a profound way, and it s totally barbaric. i guess i just don t buy that it s a different culture. so is throwing widows on the pyre. it s still wrong. i absolutely agree with you, tucker. there is one thing i want to correct.s w you said it removes a vital part
that s not your only demand. but that is one of the key demands from this list that i have and you are doing a lot tom get this. why not just paint it yourself? pick a saturday and paint it the colors you want? because that is vandalism and black students are often arrested and often sometimes shot down by police and we do not want to put ourselves at that type of risk.do tucker: okay. another one of your demands is for housing guarantees, i m quoting now, for all black caribbean identified students. so, housing just for african-american or african students. that sounds a lot like the segregation that we read about, where schools 50 years ago had special dorms for african-americans. why is it different? yeah. i think it is very different. we are asking for housing guarantee fornt black students o live in the rosa parks african-american themed house. we re not asking for only black students, we are asking for black students to have a guarantee to live in a house at the universit
currently, about six to seven black students live in the rosa parks african-american themed house.ut we are trying to ensure that black students who do decide to come to uc santa cruz know that they have somewhere where they will be accepted, where they can live peacefully among whoever else chooses to live there with the shared common goals. tucker: so, would the guarantees also go to white studentsco or samoan students ae or korean students? would they be excluded from the guarantees? many students, we don t speak for the white students, the samoan students, or the korean students. s if they want a guarantee to live in a certain house, they are more than welcome to fight for that, we can support that in other ways. right now, we speak for the african black caribbean students, who are struggling on this campus and need housing. while there is a house that is supposed to meant to protect them and live as of the saved space, that is currently only being occupied by five black bodi
of the female genital anatomy. is it okay if i actually say what that part is? there is a misconception about what actually, what the surgeries entail. there is no female circumcision procedureta that removes the clitoris of a woman. it s absolutely impossible to remove a woman s clitoris without killing her. what it is exposed is a tiny fraction of what is an expansive organ tucker: i will stop you hathere. before we get too into it. let me just say, woulduc you concede, because there are a lot of women who feel mutilated this is not this is being led by women. maybe we should let adults make this decisiong and not impose t on a 6-year-old? is that fair? here s what i think about it. there are a lot of men who have experienced male circumcision, who say that this is mutilation. in fact, in the courtroom, when the doctor appeared in court,