he spoke with the committee for six and a half hours with details that we will learn in the couple of days. his testimony comes after a subpoena issued by the committee wednesday after extensive negotiations between he and the panel went nowhere. cipollone, who witnessed trump s worst moments after the election and beyond, reportedly pushing back on the former presidents plan to replace the attorney general, pushing back when trump floated the idea of seizing voting machines. but testimony from former white house aide cassidy hutchinson, cipollone was put in the crosshairs after she identified him of having firsthand all edge of having potential activity in the trump white house. that she made clear, pat cipollone knew about the legal liabilities of january 6th, warning the white house against letting trump join the riot. mr. cipollone some said something to the effect of, please make sure we don t go up to the capitol, cassidy. keep in touch with me, we are going to get
sisters in the podcast. right miley, justice reporter for nbc news digital, and katie had tubman, senior editor for insider. it s good to see you all. how might cipollone s testimony be featured in these future committee hearings? he is someone who was in the room. so not only can he collaborate past testimony including cassidy hutchinson, but he can add a lot more details. and he can say, i heard the president say. i was in the room when mark meadows said i was in the room when rosen and donahue told the president so he will really put this even closer to the former president than anyone so far has. and he can also identify other witnesses, much as cassidy hutchinson did, that could end up being very helpful to the committee and to the department of justice.