eric: rick, thank you so much. arthel. arthel: joining me now on the phone is holy baker, ms. baker thank you for taking the time to talk was, if you can tell us how full are the shelters and if you have any room for more people? thank you so much for having me. yeah, absolutely we, do have hundreds of shelters opened along the carolinas and other states and we have around 20,000 people staying at them, i wouldn t say that they were pull and actually we will never turn someone away, people are always welcome to come to red cross shelter where they will find a place to sleep that s safe, they ll find comfort and we will make sure that they are fed and it s a place to really ride out the storm and take those first initial steps in figuring out what you re going to do next. now, of course, you have your hands full and you re providing a lot of much needed help, is
i say would be a record and it is a very dangerous one for conway. it s also the kind of record we are going to see along side other rivers throughout south carolina and north carolina and officials say there are still very dangerous days ahead, arthel, worth remembering as our own rick pointed out continually that in these kinds of storms like florence only around 8% of deaths are caused by wind, something like 75% are caused by flood waters, arthel. arthel: and to see, jonathan, that a lot of the residents haven t fully recovered from matthew. yeah, it s true. you talk to anybody around here and they all remember matthew and then you go back to 1999 and they went through the same thing in floyd. so it is something that s repeated again and again here sadly with these storms but conway i can tell you is a fine
small town of about 22,000 people and i can see why despite the rigors of living here they don t want to leave arthel. arthel: i don t blame them, that is home. jonathan hunt, thank you very much. sure. eric: back to north carolina in wilmington, mostly in the dark, streets covered with down powered lines and debris and the folks who live within one mile from the cape fear river, they ve been ordered by authorities to get out and evacuate or they say provide officials with your next akin, it could be that bad, rick levanthhal and residential area, rick, what s the devastation there now? we have breaks news, eric, unfortunately often times in disasters like this you see people who try to take advantage of the situation, we had heard reports of looting in wilmington, we just saw it firsthand in a neighborhood not