signing. national security adviser susan rice says if karzai doesn t sign soon, they will have to plan for a future with no american troops in afghanistan, zero. a very recent precedent for leaving a country with no security forces left behind. it s what happened in iraq two years ago. the country has devolved into violence and chaos ever since. 12 years ago, the u.s. entered afghanistan with the goal of taking on the taliban. it was the first wave of what we would end up calling you the war on terrorism and long since surpassed very yacht nam as the long waste war in american history. what happens after a dozen years and countless blood and pressures loss, the u.s. ends up leaving afghanistan with the very same power vacuum it helped to control zblat what fills that vacuum? what are the security consequences for that? after all it has cost us, shouldn t we be asking ourselves why? well, here to talk about this at the table we still have rick hertz berg with the new yorker, robert geor
decided s socialist, kennedy-loved fighting mother starts fighting with her sarah palin, glasses wearing sister. and the e-mail she forwarded you, how the president wasn t born in america. phenomenon so pervasive, all sorts of survival guides came out last week before the holiday, ten unsatisfying rules disagreeing friends or family over the holidays. there is one. tired of people talking politics at thanksgiving, here is how you can stop them. you get the idea it has been three days now since this year s thanksgiving and we are all back from our family thanksgiving tables. we are back here at the up table. our belts might be a little tighter and now we have pastries instead of turkey, but i bet there are some stories to tell. so, i want to know, how did it go? talk about it. perry bacon from the grio, rick hertz berg, the new yorker, bob franken and msnbc contributor, goldie taylor. i have my thrilling, exciting stories, weren t too thrilling this year, had some in the past.
0 there s not one way to do something. no details too small. american express open forum. this is what membership is. this is what membership does. the balance of power between heckler and president. at the start of this first sunday in december, vet first day in december, in fact, we are mulling over the question of when things begin and how they will end. president obama redoubling his efforts this week to keep immigration reform alive, what s the path forward? is there a path soared in with the clock ticking down on the u.s. war in afghanistan, president hamid karzai has been refusing to sign the security deal that would keep some american troop notice region. could he be sending a message to the taliban? also, the republican party says i went out to michigan, there are cities in michigan there are cities in michigan oh, shut up. [ cheers ] we saw more of the put them in their place approach from bill clinton who had an extensive back and forth with an aids activist at a n
absolutely. i don t think it had to be blown away but i agree with you. not for us. thank you, joan and rick hertz berg. join us again at 5 and 7 eastern for more hardball. right now, time for the ed show with ed schultz. good evening, americans. welcome to the ed show. coming to you live from kansas city, missouri, on day two of the free health care clinic. i have got a lot to say about the people that i ve met here today. they have done a fabulous job. we will get to that in just a moment, but first this is the latest from capitol hill. there s a lot of disappointment coming from the progressive caucus. the public option is reportedly dead, but hold the phone. there s some hope tonight, the latest senate compromise deal may not be the final bill that gets 60 votes. joe lieberman of connecticut now says he is troubled by the medicare buy-in. olympia snowe has already said that she is not on board with t and on the house side, nancy house speaker nancy pelosi