taking the conservative theological position, but a definite liberal approach to social problems. according to exit polls, by the way, 80% of white evangelicals voted for president trump. and for more i m joined by the person who wrote that editorial. mark galli i editor in chief of christianity today. he s retiring in a few days. mr. galli, thank you for joining us and i really want to know about your thinking, your feeling, your moral sense about this whole question of the president. i want to preface this by saying i watched the whole day of hearings two days ago and i didn t hear a single republican member of the house say one good word about the president s basic goodness, his honesty, his character. no defense of him as a person, as a human being under god, nothing. and i felt that to be a very serious deficiency on the part of those who defended him. your thoughts about your own thinking?
but the whole notion that withholding funds and obviously the pressure applied was done subtly but it seemed to me between the phone call and the various witnesses it s unmistakable that s what was going on. it would be foolish to think nothing else but that was going on. and that s what was so disheartening and disappointing. we know this president said things we were told not to do as kids. you know, don t make fun of someone s appearance, don t make fun of someone s handicaps, basically don t be cruel as a way of making a joke, if you will. and the other day the president talked about john dingell, i knew the guy, good guy i liked him. and he s a tough guy. and the president referred to him being in hell basically as a way to taunt his widow who was now a member of congress. where does that fit in your way of looking at trump? well, that s a classic
late. if there s ever a time to put country over party, it s now. how do you resolve this? how does this come out of the wash in two weeks? now the recess is not until the first or second week really in january. this could go on. how could you see it resolved? i think it s only resolved by some negotiated solution in the senate where the senators figure out exactly what the procedure is going to be is come to terms with who s going to be called. and then the artales kill be transmitted and the trial is going to happen, and that has to happen. it s necessary under the constitution at this point for there to be an actual trial in the senate. so i see a resolution coming when a negotiated solution is reached, which will have to be reached. senator blumenthal, how do you get republicans to look at this as a conscientious decision that they really are jurors, they re not just politicians? well, of course mitch mcconnell has said he is not going to be impartial.
associated press the speaker said of trump, he ll be impeached forever no matter what the senate does. he s impeached forever because he violated our constitution. i m joined now by richard senator blumenthal of connecticut, a member of the senate judiciary committee. barbara boxer, and noah feldman, professor at harvard law school, one of the witnesses to testify to the house judiciary committee earlier this month about the legal arguments on impeachment. i want to start with senator blumenthal about this. where do you stand on the constitutional question, does pelosi have the prerogative to hold back the articles? this decision is indeed nancy pelosi s to make. and her position is fully understandable that she wants some assurance there will be a full fair honest trial with witnesses and documents. after all of the extraordinarily able work done by the house committee and the courage of those dedicated public servants
hearing ability those 71% of americans who say we need documents and witnesses. barbara boxer, former senator of california, let me ask you a question. this is about guts, it s about nerve. how long can nancy pelosi, the speaker as a person because she s making this decision personally, how long can she hold those documents? when they get back to the house coming back into session next year january 7th, first tuesday back, how long can she hold onto those documents politically and get away with it? well, it s a great question, but right now i think senator blumenthal is right. for her to just send those articles over to the senate after the foreman of the jury essentially stepped out to the microphone and said there s no difference between the way i feel and the way trump s lawyers feel, what she s done is remarkable. and i don t think she s out there on her own, chris. i think she is i know how she works. she s got people around her who