per perhaps marjorie taylor greene. what should happened to them? should they be censured? should they be removed from committees? what do you think? well, i guess that s a decision for colleagues, right? i mean, my job is to put evidence out there. as i said at the end of that, it s like, i only know of one reason to seek a pardon. because you re worried that you re guilty, that you committed a crime. this is something they have to answer to their constituents. you know, i can t enforce rules of the house or do certain things unilaterally. but i think the bigger point is, listen, america, do you really want your members of congress out there trying to bend or break the law so that they can maintain political power? that is like, anafma to everything we ever learned in history class whether you re in third grade or whether you re a senior. and that s got to stop. it s interesting because you had three trump loyalists, rose and donahue and engel, testifying today. these ar
gangel i want to get your reaction to the documentary filmmaker in a moment. first i want to go back to the hearing where former deputy attorney general richard donahue memorialized a meeting he had with then president trump. let s take a listen. toward the end of the meeting, the president, again, was getting very agitated, and he said people tell me i should just get rid of both of you. i should just remove you and make a change in leadership, put jeff clark in. maybe something will finally get done. and i responded, as i think i had earlier in the december 27th call, mr. president, you should have the leadership you want. but understand the united states justice department functions on facts, evidence, and law. and those are not going to change. so, you can have whatever leadership you want, but the department s position is not going to change. i don t know that that really mattered to donald trump, facts, evidence, and law are not going
but i think the other thing that we have to keep in mind and i kind of said this in my opening statement is what would happen if something different happened in the future? what if any of those people would have said, we will put the department of justice stamp on your lies and conspiracy. this democracy will be in trouble. this isn t over. we re not out of the woods. donahue, the former deputy, acting deputy attorney general, said that he told jeffrey clark that clark was advocating, quote, nothing less than meddling in the outcome of an election. and we also heard that clark was conducting his own investigation. and take a listen to what we heard about voting machines, the idea that trump was telling jeffrey rosen to seize you know, why haven t you seized the machine? in your view, do you think that the committee heard or presented evidence today that trump directed the justice department to break the law? i think we have shown a lot
per perhaps marjorie taylor greene. what should happened to them? should they be censured? should they be removed from committees? what do you think? well, i guess that s a decision for colleagues, right? i mean, my job is to put evidence out there. as i said at the end of that, it s like, i only know of one reason to seek a pardon. because you re worried that you re guilty, that you committed a crime. this is something they have to answer to their constituents. you know, i can t enforce rules of the house or do certain things unilaterally. but i think the bigger point is, listen, america, do you really want your members of congress out there trying to bend or break the law so that they can maintain political power? that is like, anafma to everything we ever learned in history class whether you re in third grade or whether you re a senior. and that s got to stop. it s interesting because you had three trump loyalists, rose and donahue and engel, testifying today. these are official
are, just the level of craziness of the conspiracy theories. again, i think it s simply getting to him. again, i don t dispute any of that. i don t dispute that today the testimony from the acting attorney general and from mr. donahue, right it s devastating to hear this testimony. i don t dispute any of that. i just don t at the end of the day, if you re going to question, will donald trump be the nominee in 2024 for the republican party? did today impact it? did yesterday impact it? i think not. will he be president again? will republicans vote in sufficient numbers in 24 to make him president? i think this may have an impact. suddenly you see reports of kind of this subterranean movement towards ron desantis and of florida. and he could take on donald trump. and maybe there s republicans now who look at this and say, you know, we d like somebody who s got donald trump s policies but without the crazy. and so that may be seeping out there among i think the point you made