did anybody in there support mr. clark? no one. mr. rosen, it was you he was going to replace, so what was your view about the president s plan to appoint mr. clark? well, as i alluded to earlier, the issue really wasn t about me. it was it would have been fine, as i said, to have had rich donoghue replace me, i would have said, great, i get 17 days vacation or something. but the issue was the use of the justice department, and it s just so important that the justice department adhere to the facts and the law. that s what it s there to do. and that s what our constitutional role was, and so if the justice department gets out of the role that it s supposed to play, that s really bad for our country, and i don t know of a simpler way to say that. and when you damage our fundamental institutions, it s
because there s i think when you saw richard donoghue testify today, that s the soul of the justice department. it s not political. i worked for two attorneys general who went after republicans and democrats alike. they didn t protect their friends. it s a nonpolitical place with highly structured traditions and what we saw today was donald trump blowing past all of them, and look, there s nobody who cares about the criminal case against donald trump more than me and the evidence today was overwhelming about that, but the first thing, my emotional reaction, was donald trump is not fit not only to be president, but even to be in this country. the picture today was a third-rate dictator. that s the way documents in foreign countries behave, not the way our justice department did. regardless of what you think about various presidents,bush, reagan, clinton, nobody treated the justice department this way, and nobody put anyone in the justice department like jeffrey clark, who would do tha
bidding. what s so amazing, what we saw today for the first time was some of the evidence that we had understood this committee had marshaled, but i don t know that we had ever seen it before. we saw some of the call logs they have, and interestingly, jeff clark gets the title, at least on the white house call log, of acting attorney general of the united states of america. he calls the president one, two, three, four, what, five, six, seven times or six times and his title gets changed sometime between 1:13 p.m. and 4:19 p.m. ahead of that oval so either someone misreads a cue or donald trump actually expresses his intent to make this switch that would have had the result that mr. donoghue testified to. yeah, when you re building a criminal conspiracy, nicole, you have to build both the intent and the overt acts. these are the kind of things, using white house evidence, of the overt acts. to neal s point, something that came through is this is the first time we have heard people t
in the state of arizona, over 36,000 ballots. 11,600 more ballots and votes were counted, more than there were actual voters. you see that? in wisconsin, corrupt democrat-run cities deployed more than 500 illegal, unmanned, unsecured drop boxes which collected a minimum of 91,000 unlawful votes. mr. donoghue, mr. rosen, mr. engel and others stopped president trump s efforts, at least temporarily. yet the message president trump and his republican allies pushed throughout december made its way to his supporters anyway. and they kept up the pressure campaign on the way to storming the capitol on january 6th. mr. rosen, were you at the department of justice on january 6th? yes, i was there all day. once the capitol was under
ever hear from president trump that day? no. like the aag, the acting aag, i spoke to pat cipollone and mark meadows and the vice president and the congressional leadership, but i never spoke to the president that day. so, today s hearing showcased the efforts of the americans before us to stand up for democracy. mr. rosen, mr. donoghue stayed steadfastly committed to the oath they take as officials in the department of justice. on january 6th itself, they assisted during the attack while our commander in chief stayed silent. their bravery is a high moment in the sordid story of what led to january 6th. my colleagues and i up here also take an oath. some of them failed to uphold theirs, and instead, chose to spread the big lie. days after the tragic events of january 6th, some of these same republican members requested