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from that magnet. they continue to come and they re going to continue to come because he s not going to do anything. tom . look, you ve dedicated your life and career to helping to protect the border. and i got to tell you, it is absolutely one of the most devastating things that s happening. the secretary of homeland security says they have operational control of the border, but i don t think so. they have operational control. the border operation controlled border is held by the mexican cartels. the border patrol is doing the best they can, but they re overwhelmed in some sectors. 70% border agents are taken off the line so the cartels control the border and it s those that again, i agree with . he lives every day and every citizen i was a border patrol agent for i caught the same illegal alien three times one year recidivist around forever. so tempting target for two. but let s get to the you two reasons, jason , why they re not why they re not using the ice fence. number one , be

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