given the ceaseless obstruction with climate realist at at state level, and how can we move forward on possible solutions, such as carbon tax or cab and trade or any kind of price on carbon. with me now is carol browner, she served as head of epa for eight years with president clinton and was president obama s director of white house office for energy and climate change policy in 2009 and 2011. currently ms. browner is a brother for climate progress. it is great to have you here. thank you. vast majority of politicians who if you and i sat soun with them, they would say, yeah, it is warm are than we need to do something about it. but they don t work everyday to prior ties this. why is it hard even for people who are sympathetic, because as said in the taped piece, there is no ribbon cuttings. no deliverables to bring back constituents. i believe that s part of it.
no deliverables or ribbon cuttings. i think we intend to see the pollution, taste it, feel it. it is immediate. what we are asking people to do is think about a problem, consequence chess may not happen for a while may only happen in parts of the country. maybe sandy was a climate change induced hurricane. maybe it wasn t. you are really asking people to step out of their everyday life and make decisiones about the future. that s a hard thing for anyone to do. let s talk a little bit about the president s speech and his new initiatives. i think that congress has felt like a dead end for change on this issue. so there is going to be change in the next three, four years, it will come from the white house. what is your take on it? i think it is important know that what the president is doing is using a law that s been on the books since 1990. this is not something new. he haven t going behind anyone s act. kplien that t . congress passed the clean air
there s no deliverables to bring back to your constituents? i think that s part of it. there are no deliverables, there are no ribbon cuttings. but i think the other part of it is, we have tended to solve environmental problems when we can see the pollution, we can taste it, we can feel it. it s immediate. and what we re asking people to do here is think about a problem, the consequences which may not happen for a while, may only happen in parts of the country, maybe sandy was a climate change-induced hurricane, maybe it wasn t. you re really asking people to sort of step out of their everyday life and make decisions about the future. and that s a hard thing for anyone to do. let s talk a little bit about the president s speech and his new initiatives. because i think congress has felt like a dead end for change on this issue. so there s going to be change in the next three years, four years, that s going to come from the white house. what s your takeaway from it? i think it s im
issue, even with people who are sympathetic. is it because there s no ribbon cuttings, right? there s no deliverables to bring back to your constituents? i think that s part of it. there are no deliverables, there are no ribbon cuttings. but i think the other part of it is, we have tended to solve environmental problems when we can see the pollution, we can taste it, we can feel it. it s immediate. and what we re asking people to do here is think about a problem, the consequences which may not happen for a while, may only happen in parts of the country, maybe sandy was a climate change-induced hurricane, maybe it wasn t. you re really asking people to sort of step out of their everyday life and make decisions about the future. and that s a hard thing for anyone to do. let s talk a little bit about the president s speech and his new initiatives. because i think congress has felt like a dead end for change on this issue. so there s going to be change in the next three years, four yea
act meaningfully on. because you can t do the, cut a ribbon, look what i did, and have it play out in your time in office. even the ceaseless obstruction facing climate realists at the federal and state level, and little incentive for change, how can we move forward on possible solutions, such as a carbon tax or a cap and trade or any kind of price on carbon? with me now is carol browner. she served as the head of the epa for eight years for president clinton and was president obama s director of the white house office for energy and climate change policy from 2009 to 2011. currently miss browner is a senior fellow at the center for american progress, and it s great to have you here. thank you. the vast middle of politicians who if you and i sat down with them and said, yeah, the world is warming, it s a problem, got to do something about it. but they re not going to work every day prioritizing this. why is it so hard to get the kind of responsiveness to the issue, even with peop