opportunity to take a two and a half years to truly develop this, to get into this kind of granular detail that is now reflected in the indictment. so i think that while the subcommittee, we did, frankly, an amazing job, i think we put forward a case to the american people, but i think what fani is done here is take some of our work, the same with jack smith did, dig in deeper and present a compelling story. one thing scott was noting was what we heard from republicans already, one thing from trump is why this took so long? why it has been this period of time. even the governor of georgia, brian kemp, complain to me about a month ago about how long it was taken. is it pretty normal and standard? as abnormal as this is to take this long to bring charges like this? two and a half years is a long time, but you are charging the president of the united states. i mean, you really do have to be careful. a lot of the people challenged their testimony, they wouldn t come in, that takes a lo
so, again, all of those things come into play when you re looking to see just how good a prosecutor is. law and facts are one thing. presence and understanding of the audience, whether it s the judge and/or the jury is another. and fani has both. fani willis said she s utilized the rico statute going after gangs and utilizing it here. you re a neighboring d.a. in georgia, tell people why this is an effective statute that fani willis would want to utilize here. so, the great thing about georgia s rico statute, it s a fantastic tool for prosecutors because it lets us, lets them, tell the jurors the whole story. very often if you have a multi-defendant case, sometimes you can get into facts as it relates to one defendant. sometimes defense attorneys will try to file motions in limbny or
a partisan. i can tell you from having done this that often i would get on the phone with a local prosecutor when investigating the same thing and say to them i need you to stand down. the problem here is i did that inside new jersey where those folks had to continue to work with me after this case. here they don t have to work together. and so there is less leverage that jack smith has against a fani willis or alvin bragg to say back off because you will need me later on something else. don t do this for an ego boost. which is i think what she did here. the other part what jonathan said as well. the conduct that underlies here is not just a simple election contest. donald trump had three counts of the vote here in georgia, the original count, machine recount and then a hand recount. all those things were given at his request, the last two in particular. he also was able to contest
i m curious for republicans who choose to live in a world of disinformation, i m wondering if that world ends in the state of georgia with this indictment. great question. so, one thing that s unusual here compared to the other three cases which is already a remarkable thing that we re talking about, four criminal cases again the former president for crimes he committed allegedly before, during and after his presidency, is that fani willis actually got arrest warrants for each of these people so she could actually dictate the terms of when everyone needs to surrender by. she didn t issue a summons, a summons says you need to come but there s a whole negotiation about when that will be. here she said you need to turn yourselves in by next friday and if you don t, obviously she has the power to go ahead and enforce the arrest warrant. that obviously won t be necessary. i think the big issue and the reason georgia may be different in a way that helps her and
called it fictitious. it s identical to the final charges unsealed hours later. i asked the d.a. about this. listen. that fictitious document matched exactly the charges that we now see in this indictment. can you tell us more about that document leak? i m not an expert on clerk s duties or even administrative duties. i wouldn t know how to work that system. so i m not going to speculate. next question. of course, that question was pertinent because we already see trump s lawyers who at least in the court of public opinion are saying that release was more than an accidental mistake. it s incredibly frightening, the fact that his due process went up which fani had to have signed. that went up before a grand jury voted on it, that says it all. trump has until next friday at noon to turn himself in. cameras are allowed in the courtroom. martha? bryan, thank you.