have heard this from sources for months. it is a two-way street. right. it was not necessarily the best situation for rex tillerson trying to fit into this world and the president admitted that last week. but the burden was also on rex tillerson. we have heard, i have heard from people that he just kind of never got it, got how to transition from being a ceo of exxonmobil to being part of a team, to being somebody who works for the president of the united states and integrating himself in that world. that it was very rocky from the beginning. having said that, on a human level to see hob is one of the ultimate alpha males in this country, rex tillerson, be diminished and frankly humiliated the way he has been
probably develop a bit of a attitude that you can do everything. it shows you how hard modern washington is, even in this high of a position, third ranking official after the president. you see how much washington is a function of actually a kind of plateau where you have to work with the cabinet. you have to work with the congress. you have to work with the press. you have to work with everyone in washington in a way that a person at the top of the pyramid never thought he would have to do. and that, he obviously wasn t as good at. gloria, i do want to come to you. i do need to take a break. hold that thought for me. we ll be right back. rex tillerson, last day, he said, at the state department, march 31st.
the apprentice and his remaining executive producer credit there. i apologize. there seems to be a train going by the army any navy stadium, and i apologize if you re having trouble hearing me. rex tillerson is expected to be the pick for the secretary of state. it s possible that s part of it. interesting conversation for saturday afternoon. thank you for checking in with me. reporter: thanks. more now on that russian hacking report. joining me now, greg miller, national security correspondent for the washington post, thank you for talking to me this afternoon. sure. let s talk about russia s intervening in the election. first, your reaction to sean spicer pushing back on reporting lumped in with his criticism of the new york times. i m not sure he s pushing
with respect to your first question we all need to dig into his history, into his background and look very closely whether he s qualified or not. this is one of the most important jobs in the u.s. government. we all need to do that. right now. in an objective way and look at it as you and i were doing a few minutes ago. there s plus side and up side to appointing an official like this. with respect to russia, you know, i m sure the kremlin is very happy about this choice, this is somebody they know well. he wants to do business with russia. they were against the sanctions. they are doing business by the way with an oil company that seized a lot of its assets in a way that many people think were illegal. so, you know, for them, a guy like tillerson is going to put that behind them. they re not going to question that previous history. that s the kind of history we all need to look at very
this whole decision of secretary of state seemed like a reality show and we had mitt romney in front of the cameras and so much hoop law about it and now we have a decision. can you put it in perspective for us? reporter: there was a lot of pushback as you saw first of all on meet the press, saying there was a lot of anger among the base, among trump supporters against mitt romney s selection because of the really strong language that he has used in his criticisms of donald trump during the campaign. that said, donald trump praised mitt romney, said their dinner went well, said they had a real connection. mitt romney was also going to be a controversial choice for the base. rex tillerson is more of a corporate ceo type who has great global experience. you can see where he would be a