and that is your use of livestock, and therefore your continued use of meat. george monbiot, the activist environmentalist who we ve had on hardtalk, he would say that, fundamentally, to quote him, livestock is a phenomenally profligate means of producing food. you still, in essence, are producing meat. farmed meat, in a way. is this not a flaw in your approach? george is absolutely right about meat being. intensive livestock management being kind of a very profligate way of. it s unethical. it s unsustainable on every level. but what we re seeing here in this rewilding project is animals acting as drivers of a system. they are integral to the restoration of this land. the way they browse and trample