accordingly with law enforcement. let s put the dare program back in schools. let s start funding more education programs, let s start putting more resources in our public education system in general. you want to know next steps. that s what we re asking for and we ve been saying that since day one [applause] go ahead, michael. yeah. i m sorry. michael lindquist was saying something to yeah. i wanted to say sorry. go ahead, michael. sorry. and, you know, i would like to challenge every american that s watching this show to treat people better. that s really what it s about. it s about treating people like human beings. that s the first step. the first step is to recognize and see somebody as an equal being when you recognize them. it s no way that a person, a woman should feel less human than a man. there s no way that a black person should feel less human than a white man. everybody should be seen equal. until that happens it s the truth and reality of what we
that other side, that polarized opposite may listen and open up a little bit. brendan gill more is here. he tweeted a photo of his grandfather that went viral. a world war ii veteran is taking a knee to support those in the nfl to do the same. he also participated in the counter protest in charlottesvill charlottesville. he was a witness to the violence and served as a foreign service officer in africa for 15 years. and you have a question for michael. thanks for being here. my grandfather and i both and served in the military and we love our country, the flag, and the anthem, but patriotism is about the inspirations in our constitution which is always a work in progress. my grandfather s action i see as saying don t use my service to divide us and to distract from the core issue of addressing systemic racial injustice. i want to go back to the question that the reverend raised about what are the concrete steps we all need to be taking in the unified way both as individuals and as
and maybe demonstrated in some way, but we could never do something like that during the anthem, right? i ve actually spoken to, you know, to players about potentially racism in america absolutely exists. it is an issue. we need to fix it. we re a great country, probably the greatest country, but we can be a hell of a lot greater. if a lot of those guys would recognize that it s not the only issue, more people may listen and open up a little bit. brendan gill more is here. he tweeted a photo of his grandfather that went viral. a world war ii veteran is taking a knee as well. he was a witness to the violence and served as a foreign service officer in africa for 15 years. and you have a question for michael. thanks for being here. my grandfather and i both and he should have we love our country, the flag, and the
go ahead, michael. sorry. and, you know, i would like to challenge every american that s watching this show to treat people better. that s really what it s about. it s about treating people like human beings. that s the first step. the first step is to recognize and see somebody as an equal being when you recognize them. it s no way that a person, a woman should feel less human than a man. there s no way that a black person should feel less human than a white man. everybody should be seen equal. until that happens it s the truth and reality of what we want and less about the flag, then there s never going to be a change. and the change starts with our heart. this is a peaceful protest. we re challenging people spiritually, not physically, spiritually to change the way change the [applause] guys, thank you so much for being with us. i appreciate it. back now with the panel and also we re going to have more questions from the audience. i just wanted when you talk about change
and i want to say directly to you that nobody appreciates and respects your son s sacrifice more than us. your son s sacrifice and the sacrifice of many of those of our country allow us to exercise our first amendment right and that s vitally important here. i think that s what we ve trying to get across, there s a message that we want to share with the world, and we think there s no better opportunity than platform that we have because that s the biggest platform that we have. and so i want that to be clear. it s not a disrespect. we re honoring those who have sacrificed their lives in order for us to use our first amendment right. michael, i know you had a run-in with police in las vegas last month, did something about that incident impact your views on speaking out or demonstrating? no. it didn t impact my views. what impacted by views was the mass incarceration of african-americans. 70% of the people in jail are african-american. police brutality, that s what influences me. col