the black church has and the church in general to speak to the social logical, moral, ethical, spiritual challenges that we face as a nation. when we still have an america with growing unemployment, we still have a struggling economy, we still have political gridlock in washington, the conversation that emanates from the church must not be about what one can acquire in terms of material possessions. right. these preachers seemed to have turned the corner from being servers to being served. it sure seems that way. reverend hutch chins, thank you for your time. 10 minutes before the hour. do you believe in mediums? what i get from you, somebody had a heart issue, heart surgery, this feels like a father figure. this is either a father figure or father. my father had quintuple