a very different man than the man on that tape from over a decade ago. i believe he is. he was 59 years old, steve. i get it. it was ten years ago. but it wasn t like he was 30 or 20. and you re saying it took him two apologies to give you convinced to hang on and see what the end is going to be as one would say. right. listen, al, i get your point. this was not a youthful indiscretion. he was already a middle aged if not older man at the time. but i think he was a very different man. he was a hollywood type figure, a reality tv person, and i m not making excuses. i have a wife. i have three daughters. that kind of talk is repugnant to me. but what i am saying is today, the choice we have between hillary clinton and donald trump, to me, the choice couldn t be clearer in terms of a vision for america, we have an economy right now that is hobbling. we have terror which is on the march. i think we can reverse both of those trends with donald trump i think when it comes to
party. radio host hugh hewitt made headlines yesterday. he joins me now from st. louis. hugh, the gop base doesn t seem to agree with you. are they wrong? well, the gop base is loyal to mr. trump because they followed him through a long primary process. and as of friday, i was with him in urging people take the rebound that mike pence had. but i m doing my analyst job here, al. here s the deal. mass attending catholics were already attached to donald trump. after this video, that already deeply weakened number, down 22% over what mitt romney did in 2012, is going to plummet. latter day saints, deeply attached to the concept of marriage and fidelity in marriage, he was already on thin ice with most mormon support out there for him. it crashed through the ice as you saw jason chaffetz and mike lee join mitt romney yesterday as the most public jeff flake
also serves on trump s national hispanic advisory council. first of all, thanks for being here, steve. good morning, al. thanks for having me. just 24 hours after the release of the tape, let s start with this, what is the mood inside the trump campaign? obviously there is concern. we have work to do tonight. but i do think that we owe mr. trump those of us who supported him in the primary, we owe him a listen. i think the american people owe him a listen tonight. he clearly has work to do. i ll be the first to admit that, even though i do still support him. i m not joining some of my fellow republicans in repudiating him, though i certainly repudiate his comments. i think that was over a decade ago. i think he s a different man. i believe in forgiveness. and i don t believe anyone is irredeemable despite the fact that hillary clinton seems to think a lot of us are. having said that, i think we are presented the american people now with two very flawed candidates, two highly unli
this race. and there also is the reality, reverend al, it is going to be really hard to really change forces at this stage where people are already voting, including in the key battleground state of iowa, ballots have already been printed. the whole process has started and it is very, very difficult to basically put that toothpaste back in the tube. as he walks on that stage tonight, to face a town hall style debate, is he there trying to salvage a campaign that many including me don t see how that s possible, or is he there to try to salvage donald trump s brand? because where does he go from here, even as he loses the election, which many of us feel is a given now. what is on his mind as best you can get from people around him if anything? yeah. that s a great question. already going into this debate, before friday s explosive news,
let me push you on that, steve. what would make you withdraw your support? i mean, after seeing what he said on that video, we re talking about a 59-year-old man at the time, we re not talking about some youthful guy that got carried away. sure. what would make you reconsider your support given what he said in the past and now this kind of blatant graphic, lewd kind of behavior? right. listen, al, that s a fair question. a couple of things, if he said that very recently if that tape was from six months ago, for me, that would be a deal breaker. if he would not apologize. and his second apology, first one, frankly, didn t cut it with me and not with very many people. the second one on video was unreserved and unmitigated. he apologized, asked for forgiveness, asked his wife for forgiveness. i m willing to grant that. i think he has the onus is on him to come out and sell his starkly different vision for america, the american people. and also convince them that he s