kiev. the post also reports agreements were never executed and there was no indication that giuliani was paid. swrooul for his part told the wall street journal today he was in talks with ukraine but it was for more money than that. he said lute searchco asked him to represent the mince triv justice and him personally on two matters. it goes on to report giuliani said he subsequently drew up two retainer agreements for the total of about 500 large and gave them to him. the next day he decided he couldn t represent him personally because he believed doing so would pose a conflict with his representation of the president. giuliani said the he declined the ministry of justice contract and was never paid a penny for that. on sunday, giuliani denied any financial interests in ukraine. i have no financial interest in the ukraine. i m not going to finally profit from anything that i know of in
reporting is that s what this reporting is saying as well. nothing was ever formally sealed. there is no active professional business relationship there. but there is apparently, according to the reporting, this signed retainer agreement. so at least at some point there was the roots of something. how significant is that, that there is a retainer agreement versus what giuliani is saying now? i m sure that s actually what the southern district of new york prosecutors are looking at now because what we are seeing is a little bit of, i think, revisionist history by giuliani saying, well, i never got paid anything. and he said, i was never the one who was looking for business. they were coming to me. but if, in fact, the reporting is accurate and there are documents, retainer agreements that were drafted up i don t know whether they were signed or not. if it turns out they were signed, that s even more serious here. it shows that he was contemplating, at least, having a relationship wi
my understanding of the reporting is that s what this reporting is saying as well. nothing was ever formally sealed, there is no active professional business relationship there, but there is apparently according to the reporting this signed retainer agreement so at least at some point there was the rots of something. how significant is that there is a retainer agreement versus what giuliani is saying now? i m sure that s what the southern district prosecutors of new york are seeing now. he never got paid anything and he said i was never the one who was looking there business, they were coming to me. but in fact the reporting is accurate and there are documents, retainer agreements that were drafted up, i don t know if they were signed or not. but if it turns out they were signed, that s even more serious here. it shows that he was contemplating at least having a relationship with them where he would be lobbying for them in
the post also reports agreements were never executed and there is no indication giuliani was paid. giuliani for his part told the wall street journal today he was in talks with ukraine but it was for even more money than that. giuliani said lutsenko asked him to represent both the ukrainian ministry of justice and lutsenko personally on two matters. the journal goes on to report giuliani said he subsequently drew up two retainer agreements for a total of about 500 large and gave them to lutsenko. the next day giuliani decided he couldn t represent lutsenko personally because he believed doing so would pose a conflict with his representation of the president. giuliani said he declined the ministry of justice contract and was never paid a penny for that. on sunday giuliani denied any financial interests in ukraine. i have no financial interest in the ukraine. i m not going to financially profit from anything that i know
government to conduct an investigation on joe biden and the 2016 presidential election, that giuliani was meantime also seeking hundreds of thousands of dollars in business from ukraine s government officials. so let s go straight to one of the reporters who broke the story. michael roughfield on the investigative team. thank you for jumping on with me. you tell me what you re learning about what giuliani was doing, sounds like without an employment contract? what was in the works for him with mr. lutsenko. we reviewed drafts and in fact retainer agreements that mr. giuliani signed with various ukrainian officials, one a draft agreement unsigned with yuriy lutsen lutsenko, top prosecutors in ukraine at the time and helping with the dirt-digging campaign with joe biden and giuliani proposed in this draft agreement a $200,000 contract to do asset