On. I hope he doesnt think im treating him any differently. I just had a handful of bags or whatever. I was talking to a friend that i had been texting you about that had covid and double pneumonia. Remember i texted you a couple of days ago and you said it happens . About stigma, people who have had covid. And i was wondering if people are treating you any different or people talk to you since you have had it about the a stigma that they are seeing or feeling from people because theyve had the coronavirus . Well, certainly the politicizing of the situation has certainly garnered attention where people are treating me in very special ways. But theres no question, d. , that people get freaked out. They dont want to get sick. And we dont know the unknown is more scary than the known very often. And do you really have antibodies that make a difference . And can i really not get you sick . Could i not still be carrying the virus . We dont know. And thats frightening. And i think that we ha
Okay, you can sit down. Thank you. Mr. Pacheco, if you could call the roll, please. Motion from commissioner hurtado to deny this appeal and uphold the 25day suspension. On that motion, commissioner fung is absent. President hwang . Aye. And Vice President lazarus . No. And commissioner honda . No. Thank you. The vote is 2 to 2. The motion fails. However, four votes being required to overturn or modify departmental action, the 25day suspension would be upheld absent another motion unless there is another motion. Okay. The 25 days is upheld by default. Thank you. Thank you. Want go to go on to item number 5, which is appeal number 12109, appeal no. 12109, Richard Winer mary marzotto vs. Department of building inspection, 483 guerrero street, protesting the issuance on august 28, 2012, to kamal barbhuya, permit to alter a building add hood to approved coffee shop limited restaurant; maximum 15 seats . This matter was continued from an earlier hearing to allow time for the permit holder t
There for three years. Hes not a new employee. I think the threeyear employee was training a brandnew first day. The person who did the sale was the threeyear employee, right . [inaudible]. Who is the person who conducted the sale, the threeyear employee, correct . Yes. Oh, i see, thank you. Yes, he was training the new employee same day. So, to me, i wish i had more information on how long the ids have been in this format. They are easy to read, especially for someone who has been working there for three years. So, i wouldnt be inclined to reduce it at all. So, r i would move to deny the appeal. ~ okay, you can sit down. Thank you. Mr. Pacheco, if you could call the roll, please. Motion from commissioner hurtado to deny this appeal and uphold the 25day suspension. On that motion, commissioner fung is absent. President hwang . Aye. And Vice President lazarus . No. And commissioner honda . No. Thank you. The vote is 2 to 2. The motion fails. However, four votes being required to overtur
Because i didnt sell them the sweeter sweet. So, i just want to mention that. I would never do that for any price for anything. You know, thank you. Go ahead. We have some questions. Come back to the microphone. There are some questions for you. Just a quick question. How long has this employee been working for you that did the sale . The employee been working for like three years. And the new training, it was that day. So, thats the first day of the training. So, he was training him so he was busy with him, showing him store around and stuff. So probably his mind, he wasnt he wasnt a new employee. He was training with somebody else, is that what you were saying . Correct, he was training somebody else in the same day, in that day when the dee coy come. Youre saying he was distracted because he was training somebody else. Correct. Do you know how long the ids have been in this format, in your experience . I have no idea. I mean, they sent me one time the abc, the abc alcohol thing, and
Most businesses serve their suspensions without closure and there is no reason to treat alcatraz market any different from any other businesses. A 25day suspension will [speaker not understood] alcatraz and other dph permit holders from selling cigarettes to children. Thank you. Commissioners, the matter is yours. Im not persuaded that this was at all intentional, and i do believe that the owner of the store has every intention of taking whatever precautions, not only not to have it happen again, but he has a track record of it never having happened beforehand. So, i would certainly consider a reduction in the penalty. ~ before normally, i do feel strongly about Liquor Stores or Corner Stores that sell Tobacco Products to minors. But at the same time, Business Owners are supporting our city. And i think sometimes mistakes happen. Unfortunately, tobacco to a minor is a pretty big mistake, to be honest, but i am leaning with my fellow commissioner and at least not removing, but reducing