the problem since the beginning of the year, is that you need to essentially an agreement from another country to make most of that to happen. at the moment, the home office has not got those agreements. there s lots of negotiations going on behind the scenes. there are lots of hopes we might be able to do some kind of deals, but when it comes to deporting asylum seekers, when it comes to off shoring, as they call it can actually setting up asylum systems. we have heard stories of putting them on a central island and so on. in the end, all of those require cooperation, and it is perhaps the paradox of breck sit in a way that actually taking control of the borderers is going to require greater international cooperation, not less. mike easton, our home editor. some news coming into us concerning lord bethel, the minister at the department of health and social care. we are hearing that the information watchdog has launched an official investigation and into the
are plans, with the migrant boats, to turn them around in foreign waters, or push them back into foreign waters, potentially into foreign waters, potentially into foreign ports. the problem with all of this, and it really has been the problem since the beginning of the year, is that you need an agreement from another country to make most of that happened, and at the moment, the home office has not got those agreements. there is lots of negotiation going on behind the scenes, there are lots of hopes we might be able to do some kind of deal, but when it comes to deporting asylum seekers, when it comes to off shoring, as they called it, actually setting up asylum systems. we have been hearing source opening them on a central island and someone for some in the end, all those require cooperation, and it is perhaps the paradox of brexit in a way, that
raised then, in your view, should that should those have raised urgent concerns and demands for immediate repairs or were they difficult judgment calls. first of all, what i read in those documents is something that non-engineering types had said, except for the one from m morbedo. the issue is it s the extent of the problem that would decide whether it s urgent to do something or not. i saw something yesterday that is in a limited area, i felt uncomfortable with what i saw and i advised the people they needed to get an engineer in there to look at it in more detail and maybe put up some shoring. it by itself was not going to cause that building to collapse. that doesn t mean that a little piece of if a piece of concrete with two feet square falls and hits you in the head, that s a hit for you right. i m just asking everybody s got to make judgment calls across the country in thousands
manager to give them that information. just try to get them as much information as quickly as possible so they could react, they could get the rescue workers out, they could bring in more shoring. whatever they need to do. and this is what is going to make them eventually and i think sooner than later maybe the decision to cut back on the the rescue efforts, because as the days go by, it becomes less and less likely they re going to find any survivors. it is such a hard thing beyond difficult thing for any family member waiting with hope to hear. but i do want to ask you about, that commissioner, because in the wake of 9/11 you had to really balance the reality of the passing days and the dangerous situation that remains with the hope that every family member of course holds for their loved ones. how do you how do you do that? you i don t know. i look back at it and i think maybe we gave too much hope for
work would stop and try to find the source of the sound. is that happening now and are they hearing anything? everyone would get quiet. they would say everyone get quiet. remember 9/11? is that happening now? is it similar to that? absolutely. that is a standard procedure that goes on during a search e rent vent. you can see during some of the events, a few of the workers on top of the rubble pile, they re trying to place listening devices to be able to capture any kind of sound, moaning, tapping on a wall, and could mimic somebody trying to seek help. at the same time, you can see the rescue workers being able to pry up part of the pile, part of the surface. they call it delayering it. picking it up on one side, applying, cribbing and shoring to be able to keep that end open, and then able to send in their search k-9s to see if they re getting any hits on live victims. that would be followed by a