was blocked by westminster successfully, i grant you, but the question of it being a reserve matter, which means devolved governments could not introduce legislation as they try to do in terms of gender recognition or self identification, you are going to stop that with your proposal? because you can t have a woman being one thing in scotland and something different in england. you cannot have that, and we must remember why we are doing this. it s not because the conservative party wants to do it, as wes streeting says. we had hundreds of thousands of people signing a petition, women crying out all over. the really harrowing letter that i read about a woman being raped in a toilet. let me finish. we have rapists being put in women s prisons and that being said to be legal. we can tjust leave that and say we will put up more guidance. we have put up the guidance, it is not working and people will bring endless tribunal. we need to settle it once and for all. , ., ,., , . .,
sex to equality act, the intention was for sex to relate to biological sex and the distinction to be made with gender the distinction to be made with gender identity and to recognise both as gender identity and to recognise both as protected characteristics. as with both as protected characteristics. as with other areas of the law there might as with other areas of the law there might be as with other areas of the law there might be times where there two rub up might be times where there two rub up against might be times where there two rub up against each other and we have to find their up against each other and we have to find their way through and same sex marriage find their way through and same sex marriage was a good example where we found a marriage was a good example where we found a way marriage was a good example where we found a way through in that conflict between found a way through in that conflict between the same sex marriage rights of gay between the
say open to interpretation. they believe that is the original intention of the act and they say that the meaning of sex has evolved over time, that s why a change in the law is needed and it will give greater legal protection to people who run single sex spaces and they talk about things like hospital wards and rape crisis centres. the other thing they will do is to make it a reserve matterfor other thing they will do is to make it a reserve matter for westminster, so it will be westminster that decides on these things which could be an interesting way to go on this. so that is what they are putting forward. they have of course in the past been criticised for stoking up division on this issue and today the liberal democrats are saying they are waging a phony culture war. labour is not saying it will change the outcome it says it would be looking to provide better guidance to people about this, but of course what the conservatives are saying this is about tidying up the act,
we need to settle it once and for all. , ., ,., , ., ., ., ,, we need to settle it once and for all. , ., , ., ., ., ,, ., all. the proposal to make it out reserve matter all. the proposal to make it out reserve matter so all. the proposal to make it out reserve matter so that - all. the proposalto make it out| reserve matter so that devolved governments couldn t pass the sort of legislation that the scottish government did, do you support that will not? ., ., ., ., will not? you have to tread carefully. will not? you have to tread carefully, and will not? you have to tread carefully, and i will not? you have to tread carefully, and i think- will not? you have to tread carefully, and i think we i will not? you have to tread i carefully, and i think we would will not? you have to tread - carefully, and i think we would want a more carefully, and i think we would want a more respectful relationship. if we disagree with the snp, the best thin- we disagree with the snp, the bes