driver training for reserve deputy bates. she stated she did not believe bates completed the training. another corporal said he felt pressure to complete bates training by a certain timetable. that corporal said at one point, a chief approached him with a memorandum that the corporal had allegedly written. he had not written that. he said he felt forced to sign these memorandums, quote, because he was afraid of trouble like a transfer if he did not. this report goes on to conclude brooke that robert bates, that man you were just looking at there, lacked some of the basic functions of training. it also calls into question some of his actions, including outfitting his personal vehicle with police lights and using that personal vehicle during traffic stops, something that of course is against department policy. now, we should note that we have reached out to the tulsa county sheriffs office. they have not called us back yet. brooke? nick virginialess lessvalencia wow, thank you. comi
reading several cases, i don t understand how this can happen. you must believe me it can happen to anyone. bates also responded to the tulsa world report claiming he was given credit for field training he never took and firearms certifications he should not have received. according to the report based on anonymous sources and unconfirmed by nbc news supervisors who refused to falsity his records were transferred to other positions. that is not correct. i have a written piece of paper that a mr. warren krimdon, now in jail for first-degree murder 40 miles east of here signed off to say i d done a good job. you know the law firm has been most interesting, they seem to represent all the people that have been terminated by the sheriff s office without getting off on a
they falsified the records? or they wouldn t and therefore they were transferred. did they respond to you guys? no not yet. they still work for the sheriff s office. so let me ask you this dylan, in terms of the confusion over where this reserve deputy bates was trained, he had said he trained with the maricopa county sheriff s department in arizona, his lawyer clarifying that last night on erin burnett out front saying he attended a lecture held by the sheriff of maricopa county, sheriff. i want to play you something at the sheriff of the tulsa department he talks about the document that is fake and made up that is part of all these allegations. first of all, you know that that is not any type of court-generated document. that is a made up document generated by somebody s computer signed off on a notary. you re telling us you did something, why can t you tell us
tangent, you did the training and you can prove that you were certified? that is absolutely the truth. i have it in writing. acting as a back-up involving eric harris was working as a volunteer capacity as a reserve. during the interview he apologized to the harris family. a state lawmaker is now calling for an independent investigation into the sheriff s reserve deputy program, and the tulsa county sheriff s department is conducting its own review. joining me by phone, one of the reporters behind the report who broke the story about bates training record along with ryan keisel executive director of the aclu. thank you both for joining us. i d like to start off with you with this report you heard mr. bates in his interview on the today show he can prove his record was not falsified and also linking the individuals in the report to lawsuits against
yesterday. and that has real implications for americans here at home. jim schutto, thank you very much. in our next hour we will discuss all of this also the impact on u.s. national security. samantha power, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations will be our guest coming up on the program. pope francis could be headed to cuba later this year. the vatican just announced the pontiff is considering adding a stop in cuba when he comes to the united states in september. no final decision has been made yet. pope francis really credited with helping the united states and havana re-establish ties by writing leaders of both countries and having the vatican host their delegations for the negotiations. he was key in that process. that will be a big deal him going down to cuba. be a big deal when he comes here to the u.s. as well. yeah. all right. so a big story we re following up on today. new developments the tulsa county sheriff s department as you saw they say training records of