i ve cooperated with them. when i got something like this and then they wanted me to go to the grand jury next friday and i believe they re trying to start a case against roger. the reason i believe that, ari let s just be clear so everyone can follow this. you re holding the subpoena from bob mueller s office. by the way just so we have the facts, that s what you re holding here, yes? yes. and it s a requirement of, as you say, to get documents and material on those people and also for you to go in the grand jury room. why do you think after you did the other interview do they want to make you go in the grand jury room. because they re trying to set up a perjury case against roger stone and i m not going to have it. roger is my mentor. roger is like family to me. i m not going to do it. i m not going to do it. roger did not talk roger may have lied about it. are you basing that view yes. that they re trying to use you to get to roger based on a theory or base
considerable amount of stress. i have spent money on an attorney. i ve cooperated with them. and when i got something like this and then they wanted me to go to the grand jury next friday it s a requirement of, as you say, to get documents and material on those people and also for you to go in the grand jury room. why do you think after you did the other interview that they want to make you go in the grand jury room? because they are trying to set up a perjury case against roger stone and i m not going to have it. now, bob bauer, you are both attorneys. bob, the point to sam nunberg is he doesn t have a choice unless he wants to plead the fifth, he has to go or he will end up in an orange jumpsuit. yes. he could also, even if he further resists on the grounds that he doesn t want to incriminate himself, be immunized and compelled to give testimony before the grand jury. if he resists still further, he faces civil and criminal
and when i got something like this, and then they wanted me to go to the grand jury next friday, and i believe they re trying to start a case against roger. and the reason i believe that, ari let s be clear, so everyone can follow this. you re holding the subpoena from bob mueller s office? by the way just so we have the facts. that s what you re holding here, yes? yes. and it s a requirement of, as you say, to get documents and material on those people and also for you to go in the grand jury room. why do you think after you did the other interview do they want to make you go in the grand jury room? they re trying to set up a perjury case against roger stone. i m not going to have it. roger is my mentor. roger is like family to me. i m not going to do it. and roger did not talk he may have lied about it, but roger did not talk are you basing that view that they re using you to get to roger based on a theory or based on the questions they asked you? ? based on t