this, that people are getting very frustrated. being at the border is very different than being 1,500 miles away and say let everybody in, let everybody in. the law is very specific. persecution by the state. a lot of people that we are seeing right now, they are trying to find a job and get away from crime and looking for the american dream. all of that doesn t qualify for asylum under the current law that we have. being all that, assuming that all of that is, indeed, the law of the land, here is the question, congressman. there are hundreds of thousands of people who have taken the decision to leave their homeland and to do whatever it takes to try and reach the united states, to request asylum. that is the reality that we are seeing. what, congressman, could be or should be being done to deal with that reality? well, the reality is that
people cannot come to the united states and apply for asylum if they didn t do it through the application or through mexico first. also, we have the people are told to wait for an apointment in mexico. we didn t have that harsh approach, rhetoric against asylum seekers. are you encouraged or discouraged about the future? you know, things don t look good. in the immediate term, things don t look good. we will have a deepening of our humanitarian crisis at the border. a pleasure to see you. thank you very much for being with us. we have seen acts of kindness everywhere we have gone here. yesterday, we met with a father of the sacred heart parish behind me. he showed us the shelter that the parish runs that helps newly arrived migrants. there we spoke with javier who got to el paso on monday.
and they are desperate to find safety. but if they don t wait and try to get one of these appointments through this very buggy phone app that a lot of people don t have access to, they will be barred from asylum. and if they do seek to go in to seek safety and they are barred from asylum, they face being immediately removed back to their home countries where they face the same kind of dangers that they fled. katrina, one thing that i have i never generallyize over individual things that i ve witnessed but i can tell you that 100% of the people that i have spoken with over the years, 100% tell me that as bad as leaving their country was, as bad as going through the jungles was, worse is what they experienced in mexico. going through mexico is living
american immigration policy as well, obscure as it has been what is different about this one? that s a great question. normally, under title 8 processing, someone comes to the border to port of entry or enter between ports of entry and request asylum. they are given what is called a credible fear interview where their claims are assessed for their likelihood of later being able to gain asylum. and that is the way the process has worked for decades. but what the biden administration is doing here is saying, if you enter between a port of entry or if you don t get an appointment in advance, one of a limited number of appointments in advance to come to the official border crossing, you ll be barred from asylum. what that does, it puts asylum seekers in an impossible situation because they are in dangerous conditions in northern mexico where many of them have been extorted, raped, kidnapped,
sort of clear in saying that people who want to seek asylum should come to the united states and we heard that from savannah guthrie this morning when she was interviewing the homeland security department mayorkas. confusion and people are coming in. i was hearing her report. 10,000 coming in and 1,000 less than the other day but still talking about 11,000 and 1,000 and 10,000 and talking about 30,000 people from the numbers we have. states of emergency in chicago, el paso, new york, something has give. we are not including the people that get away and that don t want to be caught by officials and we are talking about thousands, untold thousands that are crossing in and don t go through the port 41 and 40. what do you want to know from