page bill. now to explain we have former kansas secretary of state kris kobach joining us from d.c. chris, how bad would the poison pill have to be for the president not to sign it? well, i can name at least three poison pills that would justify vetoing the bill. steve: okay. we know the democrats have been interested in inserting these pills. you can do it with just a couple of words. the big e. one is when it says 1.375 billion if it says no more than or only 1.375, that would take away the president s authority that exists in other laws to spend defense department money and other money on. steve: to reprogram. right that would take away his reprogramming authority in other areas. another poison pill we know the democrats have been wanting is they want to redefine asylum to say if you suffer from domestic violence or if you suffer from gang violence that qualifies from you asylum. right now that s not the law. if they insert one sentence saying that that suddenly becomes the la
listen here. you know, the numbers are almost $23 billion, which you don t report too often. it s about an 8% increase over last year. so if you look at the total funding, it s over almost up to $23 billion. it s 8% higher. the border area is happening, it s going to happen at a really rapid pace. of course the president still reserving the option to declare an emergency. that s something that he said on many different occasions, shep, he really doesn t want to do. i think things are more in flux at this moment than they were yesterday. we ll see. shepard: interesting. there s this talk of pulling money from other piles that were designated for other things. what are the guidelines about that to build a barrier? you know, a lot of that is open to interpretation. the president has got what is called transfer authority. he s got reprogramming authority. if you re within the silo of
giving him 1.3. need pretty good negotiating by the democrats. it is. it s the equivalent of a child throwing temper tantrum, they re in toys r us and they want the big toy and we give them the little car. we re still rewarding a temper tantrum. no. we have a child throwing a temper tantrum and the parent says, you can do that if you want to but i m going to the car, you will have a long walk home if you don t follow me, sonny boy. that s what nancy pelosi did to trump. there is $1.3 billion in repairs they can make to the structure on the border. he got hammered by democratic negotiations. he s talking about reprogramming authority, reprogramming money from certain departments and moving it to others. he said, i will move things
yes, sorry that we re speaking under weird circumstances which is a new congress and an old shutdown. let me ask you this first question about the president today and this idea that he could declare basically a state of emergency of sorts and build his wall his way without congress. he believes he has that authority. do you believe he has that authority? i m going to have to see where that authority is coming from. obviously congress delegates those funds and appropriates funds specifically for specific tasks. the president does have some reprogramming authority. that typically has to come back to congress to get additional approval on. he is very passionate about this as an emergency, this needs to be resolved. we do have a high number of people coming in at the border. we have used national guard for instance, and many administrations, president obama, president bush, others used national guard fl. using national guard troops is different than using corps of engineers to build an