sound right? no. i m afraid to say the state department was 10 to 15,000. number 1, he s not addressing the people scattered around the country, in the hinderlands. we have pockets of american citizens in all of those provinces. two girls that are teaching english to afghan girls. we have aid workers that are helping build water treatment plants in other parts of the country. he didn t address how those people are supposed to make their way all the way from where they are, traveling on a dirt road, passing taliban checkpoints to kabul airport. so i don t think he s answered any of the questions. martha: he said the taliban has promised and we re supposed to count on that and if they don t, we re going to call them a pariah. that seems like the solution here. quick thought, mark and then
that we ve been focused on for from the beginning of this operation because as a practical matter, it advances our interests. second, we ve been engaged with the taliban for some time diplomatically going back years in efforts as you know to advance the peaceful settlement of the conflict in afghanistan. there s still talks and conversations underway, even know between the taliban and former members of the afghan government, with regard, for example, to a transfer of power and some inclusivity in a future government. i think it s in our interest, where possible, to support those efforts. going forward, we will judge our engagement with any taliban-led government in afghanistan based on one simple proposition, our interests and does it help advance them or not.
coordination with the taliban and that there s the efforts to get americans out. i m wondering, the u.s. offers taliban in terms of cash or supplies to help facilitate this coordination? no. this is not a quid pro quo. we have laid out clearly what our expectations are about moving american citizens and our afghan partners, allies out of the country. that s what we re working on. has [inaudible] i don t have any updates or previews or read outs of chairman powell. was the white house aware of the people in kabul? we were not aware when they were enroute. what is the white house s reaction? was it beneficial or what was
media can do what they want as long as it s in the national interests and supplies with sharia law. nobody know what s that means. the media chief had one more comment that he believes that president biden hasn t shown too much backbone in dealing with the taliban with a lot of aspects of the withdrawal of a free press might also be a victim. martha: thanks, greg. my next guest is a former tv producer and host. she escaped afghanistan after she got death threats. she s losing hope about getting her family out. she joins me now. thank you for being with us today. as you listen to the news conferences from the white house and you hear that the united states military will be gone by august 31 and that they will still continue to make efforts to help people get out after that, what goes through your mind? remember, i m thinking first of all, thanks for having
strong self-interest in acting with responsibility going forward. but they will make their own determinations. thank you. the taliban right now focusing on the mission right now are not living up to their commitments. people are being stopped from trying to get to the airport, i m talking about women, sivs, others, afghans, people with papers and being stopped outside the airport now. total bottle necks, which rise to the level of what the president said were a contingencies if the taliban is not complying, if the flow can t continue. we re loading planes and some planes are leaving some people have private planes waiting for them with landing rights but can t get in to the airport as well as beyond the sivs, there s lawyers, judges, women, educators. we ve told them 20 years you can