nauta, the codefendant, remains a codefendant tried jointly with the former president of the united states. the power here is really leveraged in favor of trump. you know the former president well. do you think he learned a lesson from michael cohen, and that lesson being keep people who could testify against you incredibly close? believe it or not, i believe the president actually likes walt nauta. walt s an affable guy and he spent a great deal of time in the president s company, and i think he actually he has an incentive, though. now he has a great incentive, right? he s a potential witness against him. but i do believe he actually that they get along. and have you ever seen the dynamics walt s fixing his collar and helping his ear in the restaurant he was handing him his the most intimate moments with combs and brushes and when the president is