the debris is found. and do you believe the chinese report sths. i am treating them with extreme caution. why? for all of the reasons that we are talking about today, because it has not come from the official sources or the j.a.c.c. and it has not been corroborated and the equipment that was used to actually discover the pings, i would say it is suboptimal and certainly looking at the equipment out there on the ocean shield, and the echo, and active and passive sonar echo systems with filtering. and we know in that part of the world, there is a lot of background noise, and so to detect that 37.5 kilohertz ping is difficult. we want to make sure it is that and not background noise, so there are a number of factors the corroborate before we start to release any information to the indicate that it is from flight 370. and richard, how do you confirm it in any way or do the