hill. kellyanne conway is right, the judge s ruling goes against longstanding justice department policy on the fact that the president is immune from congressional testimony, and therefore his top aides are. this was first articulated by ren kwift when he worked under reagan and it was endorsed by janet are janet reno. the judge says it s wrong. the longstanding view of the justice department was that sort of fair is fair. that congress can t force the government the president to come in and testify because the opposite is also true, that the president can t force members of congress to come up to the white house and explain themselves, and the judge says that s just wrong. there s nothing in the constitution or law that upholds that view, and the reason is white house can t force members of congress to come up and explain themselves is the constitution speech or debate clause, which says members of