straight line. you know, there are going to be moments at any given part of the world where things are terrible. but, having said all that, i think there s no thank you so much. cheers. cheers. there isn t a lot of chefs who get to sit down and interview the president of the united states. the reason i think president obama wanted to sit down with tony in vietnam had nothing to do with the food, it was the talk again about life. anthony interviewing a russian and who was a critic of the regime, he was good at picking people who were in the crosshairs of bad guys. so, we were supposed to be dining at another restaurant this evening, when they heard you would be joining me, we were uninvited. should i be concerned about having dinner with you?
anthony was trying to speak out forcefully on jason behalf. these are two lovely blameless people who are not deserving of this faith. it was interesting to see anthony often winding up kind of in the epicenter of serious political situations. i also loved the episode where he wen to jerusalem, wen to israel, met with palestinians and israeli and brought us a unique point of view on that situation. that was powerful. any story that we sit on television and argue about and have these heated discussions about, how you have to do is interject some food and wine or whatever into it and a table it and becomes much more civilized. squish zukini with mint. this food is delicious.
wasn t a part unknown to them. his stories wasn t about food. food was a conduit it drew you in. once it drew you in it was about the experience, connection and interactions with people. it was the obama white house who reached out to cnn, and i put them in touch with bourdain. they wanted that s who anthony bourdain was, obama wanted to go have food with him, not the other way around. anthony s point was, i didn t want some fancy state dinner, it s got to be the scooter and the whole thing. and he got it his way. how you liking vietnam? love it. anthony said for him, while the secret service were, you know, apparently very cool, they
happening with paul manafort while the man has two ankle bracelets and was under house arrest and still paints a picture of i m going to do this? a lot of people are saying that s ridiculous, no big deal here. but when people start trying to go to witnesses and say, hey, let s get on the same page, i want to shape the story so it s good for me. i think people don t like that. if gives the whole case a little bit of a different tone. thanks for popping in on this one. never a dull moment. it s been a busy day and also a very painful day, for many here at cnn and people around the world as we learned about the death of anthony bourdain, a chef, a world traveler, an inspiration to millions. just ahead, we want to talk about his passion for adventure, his life. all of that is next.
at the same time, if in fact you can get some people home and if you can expand the conversation to go beyond just this person and this person but have a bigger conversation with our justice system, i think for whatever reason in this world, the celebrities and athletes have that power to drive conversation, i hope they drive it. i hope they drive it. we will see what happens with that. we have to leave it there. i appreciate you both joining us today. thank you. up next, a loss for the cnn family, a beloved member of our family. we remember anthony bourdain, an inspiration to so many. he had a very, very unique ability to make the world a bit smaller, a bit more personal. he was the walking embodiment of passion. he was a freak of nature, a force of nature, unexplainable and we were lucky to have him. every time anthony i was