the emotion in seeing the guests that you had on the show. are but a drop in the bucket of all of the emotion that we are seeing come out and the visceral reaction because it had nothing to do with the actual trial. and what the jury found for guilt. well, that s what i wanted to ask you. and you can make a distinction, right? there is a distinction. there is nuance, laura. that, what you what people believe cosby did was horrible. the you can feel for the victims, and understand how emotional and how they would feel about this. but then, also, agree that, procedure procedurally, it was the correct thing to do. am i wrong with that? no, you re right. and that really is the moral conundrum for so many people. the idea of how and what happens in the in the system of justice doesn t always have what feels like just results. and that s really the problem here. because again, it had nothing to do with what the jury found. the court, supreme court, did not say that there was, someh
against andrea constand. or against any of the other accusers. the court ruled on a procedural ground, that the state of pennsylvania is bound by the decision of a former prosecutor not to prosecute. and the court reasoned that mr. cosby relied, to his detriment, on the public statements of that prosecutor, that he would not prosecute. and that, mr. cosby, therefore, testified in civil cases, in a manner that incriminated himself. and so, the court held that it would be an injustice and a and a violation of his due-process rights to prosecute him, at this point. but that doesn t say anything about whether he s guilty or innocent. and i think that s an important fact for everyone to understand. um, the silver lining, in my opinion, about this this
disappointing decision is that there are a number of civil cases that have been on hold, while criminal charges were pending against mr. cosby. including, during this time that the criminal charges the criminal conviction was on appeal. and i believe that there is no more reason to keep those civil cases on hold, anymore, because mr. cosby is now not facing criminal charges. let me ask you, mark. mark. do you think that it makes the the the civil cases harder or easier to prove? because, in the they can always say, look, my client was, you know, let out of prison. or was convicted, wrongfully. therefore, none of it stands. no one has said that he s listen. i know that you are saying that it doesn t say that cosby is not guilty or innocent, however the court decides. but also, can you say that he is that he has been proven, in a court of law, at this point? well, he s he he was
cosby did was horrible. you can feel for the victims and understand how emotional, how they would feel about this. but then also agree that procedurally it was the correct thing to do. am i wrong with that? no, you re right. and that really is the moral conundrum for so many people. the idea of how and what happens in a system of justice doesn t always have what feels like just results. and that s really the problem here. because, again, it had nothing to do with what the jury found. the supreme court did not say that there was somehow some procedural error in the trial, an issue with jury misconduct. they did not say that the government failed to even meet their burden of proof. what they said was it never should have gotten there because a prosecutor s agreement should have been ironclad enough. it essentially enticed bill cosby not to or to speak against his his due process interests, against his right against self-incrimination and
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