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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20210907 03:30:00

the taliban claim they ve captured the final afghan province not yet under their control. they released a video on social media showing their flag being raised at the governor s compound in panjshir province. the leader of the local resistance fighters has accused the west of allowing the taliban to advance. the families of the 298 people who died when a malaysian airliner was shot down over rebel held eastern ukraine are testifying at a murder trial in the netherlands. three russians and one ukrainian national are accused of downing flight mh-i7, in 2014. a court in belarus has given lengthy prison sentences to two key opposition figures who lead protests against president lukashenko last year. judges found maria kolyesnikova and maxeem znak guilty of extremism and plotting to seize power. the us and the uk have condemned the sentencing.

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20210907 03:34:00

the deal with the taliban, released thousands of taliban fighter prisoners, and he was the one who put that deadline on the table. well, the deal was as follows: conditions based. if the taliban worked in good faith with the afghan government to form an inclusive government under the constitution of afghanistan and they did not try to take the country over militarily we were going to leave the beginning of next year. neither one of those conditions were accepted or followed, but here s what i would say they changed every other trump policy, because they had the right to do so they had the right to change this one if it wanted to but the actual deal. but hang on a minute, because you matter, you are one of donald trump s closest confidants. are you acknowledging that donald trump got this horribly wrong? no, i think he made a mistake of negotiating with the taliban without the afghan government. i would ve done it differently. and releasing those 5,000 fighters? well, it s not so

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20210907 03:40:00

for radical islamic behaviour. you cannot with this over the horizon. here s my solution. help the resistance in the panjshir valley. the taliban will not be able to govern afghanistan, they re hated by the afghan people. what s gonna happen over time is you re gonna see the resistance rise. isis will come after the taliban, large, and the entire country is going to fracture in the next year, creating a perfect storm for western interest to be attacked. you can do one of two things. you can say, that s no longer my problem, let it build and get hit or hit them before they hit you. if i may, i now want to talk a little bit less about geopolitics, a bit more about personal politics. yourjourney to many people, both in the united states and around the world it s pretty inexplicable. you were the great friend and ally ofjohn mccain and you and he and i ve interviewed you about this in the past you and he were the great advocates of using america s military mite overseas, you believ

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20210907 03:39:00

whether you believe it s trump s fault or biden s fault, here s where we re at as a world the taliban are not reformed, they re not new. they have a view of the world out of sync with modern times. they re going to pose a lifestyle on the afghan people that i think is, it s gonna make us all sick to our stomach, but most importantly, they re going to give safe haven to al-qaeda who has ambitions to drive us out of the mid east writ large and attack us because of our way of life. we will be going back into afghanistan as he went back into iraq and syria. hang on. do you seriously think the united states will once again in, in a foreseeable future. yes. ..put troops back into afghanistan? we ll have to, we ll have to, because the threat will be so large. why did we go back to syria and iraq? why do we have 5,000 troops in iraq today? because of the caliphate rising, projecting force outside of iraq, killing americans, killing the french, attacking the british. so, yes, it will be a cau

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20210907 03:36:00

in kabul today, the horrible situation facing women who think their rights may be abused and eroded, the message from america is, we don t and we cannot care about that and put our forces in harm s way for that. i think that s thejoe biden message which is dumb as dirt. and let me tell you why i think joe biden s been wrong for almost 20 years on this stuff. joe biden doesn t see the existential threat from afghanistan to the american homeland. how did we get attacked 20 years ago, september 11? the taliban gave al-qaeda safe haven to plan and plot against america. the soldiers that were there, the british soldiers, the nato forces, the american forces, were there to give capability to the afghan military so that the taliban wouldn t take over the country and give safe haven to radical islamic groups who would attack us. when the caliphate was formed in syria and iraq, 20 countries got hit, 2000 people got killed cause we pulled out of iraq. so here s what i ve been trying to tell the

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