what the impact of what would have been on the election, which was ultimately decided by a relatively small number, 74,000 votes or whatever in a few upper midwest states, certainly something like this could have easily made the difference. look, i think what s going to be interesting to see is what other evidence the sdny has on this. their language in the filings on friday was incredibly stark and definitive and clear that suggested that they have more than simply michael cohen said this happened so trump can say that happened and we get into a he said, he said kind of situation. what s going to be needed here given trump s base and the push back from trump s megaphone is going to be clear and unequivocal proof. then the next question which i heard you discussing earlier is should trump get indicted or not? we all know the issues around that, there s statutes of limitations issues. there seems to be, i think, an opening to indict a sitting president that does not seem to be against t
donald trump s statements. donald trump s outrageous remarks. people are starting to tune him out and starting to look at the facts. carol lee, things have changed pretty dramatically. i expect nick ayers a year ago would have decided to be chief of staff. now you have donald trump who wants a new chief of staff. who would want that? he s seen how that story ends. he also knows where donald trump is at this place in the presidency and yesterday said, thanks, but no thanks. so you ve been following this very close ly. what s it look like? what did the departure, the decision to get rid of john kelly look like? what did nick ayers refusal to take the job look like and what will next week look like without a chief of staff? you ve hitten on an important point which is it s increasingly difficult for this president to try to find people who want to
question on the table for all of us, i mean all of us, the extended audience out there to think about. has this president so numbed up that we don t react to this epic weekend of a president of the united states being involved in directing a conspiracy, involved in felonious lying, has this constant repetitive behavior so numbed us to outrage. i think everyone is numb because of the constant incoming of information and deeds committed by donald trump that are just so outrageous that you re just we are all desensitized to it at this point just because we are so used to the ridiculousness, the lawlessness, the flauting of
who can t spell smoking twice. the bigger problem instead of his grammar, instead of us being editors, the bigger problem is that he s only seen the southern district of new york and their plans as they are being revealed. he still has no idea what s in store on the russian side of this investigation. mueller still hasn t shown a lot of his cards. we still have not seen exactly what s in store for roger stone. we still don t know what s in store for jared kushner. we still aren t exactly sure if don jr. will be indicted. there s still a lot to come in that investigation. coming up one top democrat raises the possibility of impeachment while another raises the prospect of jail time. we ll discuss the legal exposure facing the president right now. morning joe back in two minutes.
friday prosecutors say trump directed illegal hush money to two women with whom he had alleged sexual relationships before running for president. filings allege that trump was involved in discussions about a trump property in moscow during the presidential campaign. prosecutors also said an unnamed russian offered michael cohen political synergy between russia and the trump campaign back in november of 2015. the documents claim cohen, president trump s former lawyer, was in contact with people connected to the white house and circulated his response to congressional inquiries. prosecutors also allege that former trump campaign chair paul manafort has been in communication with a senior administration official through february of 2018, along with other contacts with administration officials, and had lied about it.