anita, we had the former intelligence officer christopher steele on last night, he said the recommendations had already begun about the war. you heard him there say it change for them on the 24th of february. there is a growing confidence in nato membership within them than the, there is a growing confidence within nato. this them than the, there is a growing confidence within nato. confidence within nato. this is a reinvigoration confidence within nato. this is a reinvigoration of confidence within nato. this is a reinvigoration of the confidence within nato. this is a reinvigoration of the alliance, i confidence within nato. this is a reinvigoration of the alliance, ofi reinvigoration of the alliance, of what reinvigoration of the alliance, of what data reinvigoration of the alliance, of what data stands for. and they will be practical benefits, and essential doubting be practical benefits, and essential doubling of the kind of nato border, because doubling of the kind
heavily populated structures. he had no qualms about that. i want to bring in nic robertson for more on his take away. nic, i don t know if you were hearing his speech, but he was saying nato was plotting to attack russia through ukraine, and he said that, you know, the special military operation was needed because the west did not want to listen to russia. they had other plans is what he said. reporter: yeah, it s a reinvigoration of a message he was leading out with in the run up to this war. and it amplifies it on a very big stage here, the moment and place the world was going to listen to president putin to see what his intent was on ukraine. i was struck by the way that he referred, at least, to the battle zone, if you will, as donbas rather than the whole of ukraine. and i was struck, and i think, you know, perhaps we need to double go back and re-check
so with each one of these, i think it s important to defend liberal ideals and say, you know, the social justice claims are correct up to a certain point, but they can t interfere with these other ideals. and in our discussion we have not talked about china. in your.what you are hoping is a sort of reinvigoration of liberal democracy, do you want the rest of the world, the west, to get tougher on china? i think that china, since 2013, when xi jinping took over, has been shifting from a kind of ordinary authoritarian state to essentially a totalitarian one in which the chinese communist party wants to control basically the most minute aspects of their citizens behaviour. and they ve been projecting their power outwards. they re not as risk prone as putin is. but that challenge is going to come.
justice claims are correct up to a certain point, but they can t interfere with these other ideals. and in our discussion we have not talked about china. in your.what you are hoping is a sort of reinvigoration of liberal democracy, do you want the rest of the world, the west, to get tougher on china? i think that china, since 2013, when xi jinping took over, has been shifting from a kind of ordinary authoritarian state to essentially a totalitarian one in which the chinese communist party wants to control basically the most minute aspects of their citizens behaviour. and they ve been projecting their power outwards. they re not as risk prone as putin is. but that challenge is going to come.
up to a certain point, but they can t interfere with these other ideals. and in our discussion we have not talked about china. in your.what you are hoping is a sort of reinvigoration of liberal democracy, do you want the rest of the world, the west, to get tougher on china? i think that china, since 2013, when xi jinping took over, has been shifting from a kind of ordinary authoritarian state to essentially a totalitarian one in which the chinese communist party wants to control basically the most minute aspects of their citizens behaviour. and they ve been projecting their power outwards. they re not as risk prone as putin is. but that challenge is going to come. it s going to come against taiwan and, you know, other parts of asia in the first instance, and we have to be ready for that.