hijacker came from why not include those countries in the ban? if it gets that we need to include other countries, as you know, saudi arabia is an ally of ours and so many, egypt is and so many of the other countries, where the hijackers came from. this is part of the comprehensive plan that mr. trump is trying to get a grip on. and so you know, if you pick apart one part and say this is horrible, therefore the whole plan falls apart but it s not. for example, building the wall is part of this. increasing border patrol and i say, this is all part of it. so again comprehensive plan to crack down on immigration security in order to get a better grip on terrorism and the threats to america. congressman jack kingston. you ll be with us later. i appreciate your time. straight ahead, an issue that s at the center of
parts of our communities and the fears that they might have of a faith that they don t understand and neighbors that they haven t taken a chance to learn the struggles and the processes that they ve gone through to get here. it is also important for us to remember that many of the people, many of the countries that are included in this ban are countries that have been going through a civil war. some countries that are fighting and have successfully been able to trump tumble a dictatorship. and we have aided and abetted them in the guise of trying to further democracy in the world. for us now to turn our backs on them, and for us to say it is okay for us to get you in the mess that we ve gotten you in. but now we are going to welcome you and we re not going to help you get the opportunities, our forefathers have gotten in the
congressman jack kingston, a senior adviser to the president s campaign. he joins me from washington, nice to have you on. great to be here, poppy. let s talk about what effect you think this ban will have in stopping terror. meaning what data can you point to, that justifies that these seven nations have a tie to u.s. terror attacks or a higher incidents of bringing terrorists to this country? i think the idea is that maybe that the evidence i would say is that these countries themselves don t really have a, a standard that would preclude enemies of the united states from immigrating here. when you think about sudan. yemen, syria, libya. iraq. these are not countries that are known to love the united states of america. so i think the idea of reimplementing a ban which we have had in the past, where you can sort out who is coming in, what are they doing here? how long will they be here? i don t think it s a bad thing.
and poppy, there is a level of understanding amongst people where they do recognize that the u.s. and other countries want to protect themselves from potential acts of terrorism. what they are struggling to reconcile, though, is how it is that this ban is meant to help america accomplish that. because for them, it simply does not make any sense. arwa, that story is one of so many as your piece ended with those wide-eyed little girls. that is one of the key questions in all of this. this is a complete refugee ban, even on children and mothers of young children. what are the other stories you ve heard as people have reacted to this news? you not only have the stories of people that are hoping to travel today. you have various stories of people that have been told not to bother traveling, to try to forgo their travel plans.
if we just focus on countries like iraq and syria, given everything they ve been through, all the violence they have been through and somehow survived all the hopes they put towards this american dream and seeing it fulfilled and having the fresh start, that has all come crashing down right now. and then of course you have nationals from the other countries that are encompassed in this ban. at this stage people who wanted to go to america to continue their studies. people who wanted to visit family members. all of them at this stage don t know what to do. are not able to receive any guidance on when they can apply. you have families at this point that cannot reconnect with one another. that won t be able to see each other for who knows how long. because of this ban that has been put into place. not to mention that authorities have been caught completely unawares as well. and therefore, are unable to advise people on when they can travel at this stage there are so many unanswered questi