document, the people who compiled it didn t think it was a political document, the folks at the society and heritage foundation. they don t think they re mainstream conservatives. they think they re movement conservatives. those 25 folks are movement conservatives. they re people who have been waiting a long time to look at vast quantities of the law, very, very differently. and the president the first list was 12, i think. president was so thrilled that it reassured the evangelicals, got such great press in the conservative press about it, he said let s do it again. and that then they added a couple more people. but that s the list. and the list is not what we used to call a mainstream conservative. it may be some day mainstream, but today, even on this court i would say the people on this list would be on the far-right of the court. paul, can i get you to weigh in? it s a good point. this is something that was compiled as president trump was trying to demonstrate his bona
these coalitions coming together that says, look, this has been the law for 50, 40 some odd years and we re going to respect it. that s what story decisis is, respecting precedent. to us, the people who want to overturn it, is like racial segregation. they want to overturn it because it was wrong in their view. pete williams, what s your reporting on this and how realistic is it that there are cases that will wind their way through that would ultimately lead to an overturning of roe v. wade? there is no shortage of cases in the states that have tried repeat lid to overturn roe. the more recent trend with ken dip on the court has been to say, well, that s a lost cause. so the action has been in the states to, as nina say, restrict access. instructive example. texas passed a law that said a clinic that provides abortion services has to be built to the same standards as an ambulatory care center and the doctors who
think about starting from scratch. i think it s too aggressive and over the top and i think it s lost its course. so we should replace it with something sensible, something practical. they still have to be a law enforcement agency but one that is a little more humane. we should froe text families that need our help and that is not what i.c.e. is doing today. start over, reimagine it, and build something that actually works. we can replace it with a humane agency that is directed toward safe passage rather than criminalization. we need to rebuild our immigration system from top to bottom, starting by replacing i.c.e. with something that reflects our morality and our joining me now on set, political reporter for axios, alexa mccanaan. chief correspondent for cnbc, john harwood. and contributor raul reyes.
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contributor joyce vance. joyce, i ll start with you on what we just saw. and i know you were paying attention to it over the course of the week. it was really, i thought, a remarkable display for them to so publicly attack rosenstein. it was incredible. this was the deputy attorney general, the number two guy in the justice department, testifying under oath and being accused of lying by a member of congress. while that deputy attorney general is in the middle of supervising the turnover to congress of an unprecedented level of documentation in an ongoing investigation. and the president has he did an interview with maria bartiromo of facts and talked about why he or how his involvement is coming to be. we ll take a look the about it, and paul butler i ll ask you about t. are you going to ask them to get those documents over to congress? i may get involved. i ve been told by so many people don t get involved.