they had against michael flynn and paul manafort. cohen received secret payment to fix talks between the ukrainian president and president trump. the bbc reports the part that creates the jeopardy, cohen not registered as a representative of ukraine as required by law. that meeting took place last june, after the payment. a source also saying they gave him a gift. i ll tell you, msnbc news has not confirmed the bbc story. cohen denies it and giuliani saying maybe there was a discussion of doing this, adding on on neither end was it con sue mated. mimi rocah rejoins. what does this mean for michael cohen? i think there s three
white house, this move now we re seeing tonight for more involvement in the white house into this discussion of what the intelligence is, what this says. keeping in mind the president has the ultimate power to declassify anything he wants to declassify. let me ask you about the politics of that. the law is basic, whether you call it surveillance, interrogation, all of those are used in an open critical probe, they knocked down michael cohen s door in his law office. we know that. we re not surprised by that in any journalistic or legal way. is that rudy giuliani, the mayor, the former presidential candidate saying he knows better because he knows how these things word but he s making a political bet about how this s word, spy, this conspiracy theory will help the president. reporter: it s coming from
different sort of buckets to this story. one is the one you mentioned already, which is a violation or breaking of the foreign registration act law, which is the same law that flynn has been charged with, as you mentioned. and that would be cohen acted essentially as an agent of the ukrainian government without registering as he is required to do so. so you know what i have to do so, you re a lawyer, he s a lawyer, if that s all it is, why didn t he register? well, exactly. i mean, look, the reason for the law is we want to know when foreign governments are having an influence on u.n. u.s. policy buying the president s lawyer? exactly. clearly they didn t want anyone to know that, cohen didn t. do you think he knowingly took that suspicious risk for some reason? i can t say that he i mean, it seems clear that he was aware that that s something he to do. it would be pretty hard for him to claim that it isn t.
i want you to stay with us. there are these other allegations that excuse me, we re going to keep going. michael cohen was not only selling access to his client, donald trump but doing so in a way that was illegal. specifically using the same law they had against michael flynn and paul manafort. cohen received secret payment to fix talks between the ukrainian president and president trump. the bbc reports the part that creates the jeopardy, cohen not registered as a representative of ukraine as required by law. that meeting took place last june, after the payment. a source also saying they gave him a gift. i ll tell you, msnbc news has not confirmed the bbc story. cohen denies it and giuliani saying maybe there was a discussion of doing this, adding
on on neither end was it con sue mated. mimi rocah rejoins. what does this mean for michael cohen? i think there s three different sort of buckets to this story. one is the one you mentioned already, which is a violation or breaking of the foreign registration act law, which is the same law that flynn has been charged with, as you mentioned. and that would be cohen acted essentially as an agent of the ukrainian government without registering as he is required to do so. so you know what i have to do so, you re a lawyer, he s a lawyer, if that s all it is, why didn t he register? well, exactly. i mean, look, the reason for the law is we want to know when foreign governments are having an influence on u.n. u.s. policy buying the president s lawyer? exactly. clearly they didn t want anyone to know that, cohen didn t. do you think he knowingly