north korea had another ballistic test last week. u.s. warships sailing within striking distance of north korea. escalating tensions. at my hope is the chinese, after they met with the president, they sent troops to the border. they are importing american coal. through their own communist newspaper, they actually said if you test another missile, there will be dire consequences. but we haven t seen them yet. we have had a problem with our negotiations with china for a very long time. we haven t been able to articulate the fact that china is not threatened in the same way that we are by north korea. they are not threatened by a missile launch. they know that that is not coming at them. what they are threatened by is the regime collapse and millions of refugees coming over the border. so we have to do a better job of shaking china to say, we know it is not your priority to stop this missile launch. but since our priority, you need to pay attention.
sit down. i think if he looks around at saddam hussein, and mommar gadhafi and any country that gave up its nuclear weapons it didn t end well for them. i don t think he s going to be loathed to give up his weapons any time soon. i think the key really is china. everyone has been saying it. you heard president trump, trying to lean on china a little bit with that tweet that kim was disrespecting him. until china s really willing to put the squeeze on north korea, 90% of trade, 90% of oil, i don t really think north korea is really going to change and china s also loathed to do that because they don t want to see the regime collapse. that will hurt them too. this is not the only national security threat the u.s. is facing right now. you ve spent a lot of time recently in moscow and syria and neighboring countries throughout the middle east. they re all watching this unfold as well and it seems to be a test of this new american president. it seems to be a test and the question is, is
regime. is it tkpreuf the obama administration s policy? i think it is in the sense that it s the number one security challenge that we re facing right now, according to the administration, the president. and so we will be pursuing it in that vain. melissa: former cia senior north korea analyst managing director for bower group asia and was director for korea japan and oceanic affairs of the nsc under both president bush and president obama. thank you for bringing your expertise to us. you say that china is very afraid of putting too much pressure on and seeing regime collapse in north korea. is that right and why? welsh because china always wanted that buffer zone. china does not want unified korea, u.s. unified korea with american soldiers on its border. so it needs to keep north korea as a buffer. it doesn t want instability on the peninsula.
important is that in this relationship when you look at japan, south korea, and those alliances and blood we may be able to do to push china and order to help us? to make him the chinese option has until now, but mostly in the football. they keep promising, tantalizing, yes, we might do this. they turned on by a coal shipment from north korea this . everybody cheers. that is not going to make a difference. in the end, china can bring down the regime. i think what we need to do is china is to offer them a grand bargain. we know you don t want to see the regime collapse. you don t want a south korean expanding to be on her border. we understand that. why don t we offer you a solution where we north korea? in the end, he helped her bring down the regime, but you can decide who succeeds, nonnuclear north korea, not allied to the west, not an expansion of the west, up to your border, but
japan, south korea, and those alliances and what we may be able to do to push china in order to help us? to me, the chinese option hah until now, but mostly in the football. they keep promising, tantalizing, yes, we might do this. they turn away a coal shipment from northth korea this week. everybody cheers. that is not going to make a difference. in the end, china can bring down the regime. i think what we need to do with china is to offer them a grand bargain. we know you don t want to see the regime collapse. you don t want a south korean expanding to beyond their border. we understand that. why don t we offer you a solution where we finland-ize north korea? in the end, you help to bring down the regime, but you can decide who succeeds, nonnuclear north korea, not allied to the west, not an expansion of the west, up to your border, but it would be finland-ized, the way