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government, communist government be involved in that. did pope benedict speak out on those issues at all? well, during his pontificate, he turned down making a deal with the red chinese communist government because he did not want to surrender the power of the church into their hands. pope francis is much more comfortable in negotiating with communists, and, you know, my own view is you can t trust communists even if they re smiling at you and shaking your hand. of in fact, that s probably the last moment you want to trust them. pope benedict, no, he supported what we call the underground church, the catholic chinese faithful. sad to say pope francis, i think, has made a big mistake here, and cardinal zen in hong kong has said the same thing, and he s on the scene. david: we ve only got 5 seconds, i have to ask, benedict s predecessor became a stability. do you think a stability. do you think the same might happen? you never know. he was a very holy man. i met him a couple of tim

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