have a lot of experience, that co-pilot is definitely confident enough and competent to handle an emergency procedure because of that extensive training. david, do you agree? oh yeah, absolutely. in fact, there s been some studies about the combined cockpit, where we talk a lot about crew resource management. and is it better to have two experienced pilots that rely on their institutionalized thinking or someone new. it really comes down to the red box checklists, the things that are committed to memory and those that are just out of training would be more recent, better recall of those red box lists than would a senior captain. so i think it was a good combination of the skills and experience in that cockpit. okay. thank you both very, very much. coming up, back to the families. because as the families anger boils over, we are now learning exactly how much money the airline is giving them during this waiting period. so i ll ask an aviation attorney whether this dollar figure